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PODCAST/CONSUMERS/TECH: Interview with Joseph Kvedar, Partners’ Connected Health guru

This is the transcript of the podcast interview I did with Joseph Kvedar, from Partners Center for Connected Health. Coincidentally this past Tuesday in NYC, the Center, along with Continue Health Alliance and others, sponsored a meeting about the use of monitoring devices as part of a general strategy by leading edge employers to try to do something about the management of the chronically ill. There’ll be more from me about that later.

Matthew Holt:  Hi, this is Matthew Holt with The Health Care Blog, and I am doing another podcast. If you are one of those people who thinks that we have too much medical technology and too many medical facilities in America–I am deep in the belly of the beast. Sitting in the middle of the academic medical center triangle of Boston speaking with Joseph Kvedar. Joseph is the director of The Center for Connected Health. He also, for those of you who are paying careful attention, wrote an article in The Health Care Blog about Connected Health, just, I think, a week-and-a-half ago. Joseph, first off thank you very much for hosting me in your office.

 

Joseph Kvedar:  Delighted to be with you, Matthew.

 

Matthew:  You are also the Vice-chair and the Associate Professor of the Residency Program in the Department of Dermatology, so obviously you have a medical background. You know, that it’s not unusual in the AMC for somebody who is an academic physician to be also prodding around in another area. This center was, until recently, called The Center for Telemedicine.

 

Joseph:  Yes.

 

Matthew:  Also it is an integral part of Partners, what you are doing in terms of outreach into the community with technology. Why the change to Connected Health?

 

Joseph:  Well, we felt that most of what we are doing these days is not captured by what people traditionally think of when they use the word "telemedicine." I have spent a lot of in time in meetings over the last few years explaining that. So it just made sense for us to adopt a moniker that was a bit more fresh, a bit more 21st century, and could really allow us to have people engage with us and our vision in a more effective way.

 

Matthew:  That makes a lot of sense. My friends at Cisco think that they invented the term and that the NHS and everyone else is copying them. But the concept around connection and health seems to be really taking off. You can guess if that is a good thing or a bad thing, but I think it underscores a lot of what we are talking about. Now some of the things you brought up in the brief piece you wrote for The Health Care Blog I think are very interesting. Just capture, for those people who haven’t read it, the flavor of what you think the possibility of change that this kind of technology can bring.

 

Joseph:  Let’s use the example of diabetes. So today your average diabetic often views their condition as somewhat of puzzlement, somewhat of an accident. They may or may not understand the relationship between diet, exercise, and glucose. They may or may not understand how changing their activity level can help their condition. They are really left with occasional, brief, hurried visits to their doctor, and a lot of instructions, and often very little in the way of a true relationship or connection with healthcare.Now picture the same individual with a lot of physiologic feedback. Let’s say an accurate step count, once or twice daily a log of their glucose readings that is contextualized with their diet and their activity, and a medication reminder system. And I think that is, for us, all of that is what we mean by "connected health."

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INDUSTRY: You can’t buy publicity like this

The kids at AHIP and PhRMA must be holding their heads in their hands this morning. Everyone in health care knows that Michael Moore’s Sicko is coming out soon. But in case you thought there wasn’t going to be enough publicity, the US Government has launched an investigation to see whether Moore’s trip to Cuba—where he followed some American patients seeking free care in a publicity stunt—violated US law. Apparently you have to be a journalist to go to Cuba…and by the Treasury department’s definition Moore might not be one.

This is so stupid that you have to believe that whoever launched this in the government is a mole for single payer interests or owns stock in the movie. Moore must be laughing his ass off with delight! 

PHYSICIANS: An Open Letter to Harvard Medical School By Dr. Terry Bennett

Doctor Terry Bennett
became the focus of national attention two years ago when he brusquely told an
overweight patient that she was fat, warning that unless she changed her
lifestyle she faced serious healthcare problems. The woman complained to the state Medical Board.  Last year, the New Hampshire
physician  fought off the attempt to punish him. The
experience convinced Bennett that the practice of medicine in America
must change.

Like many physicians he
believes that doctors are treated unfairly and that the healthcare system is on
the verge of collapse.  He argues that
out-of-control HMOs, high malpractice rates and the financial burden of earning
a medical education
are ruining the  practice of medicine, creating a generation of
young doctors that has forgotten what makes a doctor a doctor.

Instead of sitting in
his office in
Rochester, New Hampshire  and watching it happen, Dr.
Bennett has decided to do something about it by nominating himself for one of the highest profile jobs in
medicine. He recently launched a "write-in" campaign to interview for the Dean’s
job at Harvard Medical School, generally considered the cultural heart of
the medical profession in America.
What follows is his open letter to the Harvard
search committee requesting an interview.  For the record, THCB neither
endorses nor opposes his candidacy. We
believe, however, that the views Dr. Bennett expresses are important and worthy of very careful
examination. He also turns out to be a gifted writer, which makes this piece a very compelling read. An insider at Harvard Medical School who must remain anonymous calls Dr. Bennett’s letter "one of the most beautiful pieces of writing on medicine I have ever read." I fully agree. —  John Irvine

To the search committeeHarvard Medical School

I would not press for the job of Dean of Harvard Medical School, at my age, and at my station in life, if I did not think the Dean’s job did not need a rethink, a change from, an inarguably good man, the present Dean and most of his predecessors, to a zealot, of sorts, with a considered and announced, very public, totally non-secret, pro patient anti "money only" agenda, one which will change the life/lives of the man/people on the streets of America, and by extension, the world.

Humor me a little:

Ask the first one hundred people you meet on the streets of Boston if they know the name of the present Dean of Harvard Medical School, or what, if anything, has he stood for, while he has been Dean, and how has his tenure positively impacted/affected their lives and those of their families?

What has the Dean of Harvard Medical School caused in the way of useful change in their lives? What has he changed, for the better, or at all?

I will be surprised if one person in one hundred knows his name, or thinks his existence in any way affects their lives, and so will you.

It is my belief that so much has changed for the worse in American Medicine, that the HMS Dean’s name should be a byword, his/her positions clearly known, and the positions inarguably pro bono publicum, as he/she struggles publicly to change the status quo, tries get the 45 million uninsured into a universal healthcare program of some kind or another, tries publicly to get US drug prices within the reach of patients, tries to get American community hospitals to return to full and fully charitable services offered to their communities, and vows to be producing debt free zealot "gonna go out and change the world" physicians from HMS to go out and effect the necessary change(s), before all is lost, forever.

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PHYSICIANS: Bennett YouTube Interview

It turns out that Dr. Bennett is also a supporter of
universal healthcare.  He recently attended
a  rally for John Edwards, where Daily Kos caught up with him.

POLICY: Debating the Quality of VA Care By Eric Novack

The many commenters and contributors
to THCB who have been touting the VA as the pinnacle of US health care—and
basing their conclusion that what we need is not ‘Medicare for All’,
but rather ‘VA Care for All’—have some explaining to do.

In this article, which reports the McClatchy
News Service’s investigation into the claims of the VA—the real
truth is not so rosy.

UPDATE: (5.11.07) Ed comments: McClatchy’s Washington bureau has set up a blog where you’ll find more detail on this story as well as related pieces on the military healthcare system.

POLICY: Freedom of Choice, Good for Education – Good for Healthcare By Eric Novack

Proponents
of Sheila Kuehl’s ‘Single Payer’ health plan for California like to
lead with the argument that ‘Everybody in, nobody out’ is a good thing.
Of course, many of the same interest groups (ie. powerful lobbying
organizations in California) are vehemently opposed to school choice,
while demanding greater and greater regulations for what it means to be
a ‘qualified’ teacher.

Fascinating, then, the new study from USC’s Rossier School of Education.

The charter schools (read that to mean, more choices for students and
parents) do more with less funds, generally have fewer layers of
administration, and have fewer ‘licensed teachers’.

But it is all about outcomes these days—for both education and health care.
So how do charter schools stack up? From page 6 of the study:
California charter schools typically have smaller per-student
allocations than non-charter schools in their districts, yet charter schools have roughly equivalent levels of productivity: They get “more bang for their buck.”

Choice and freedom, and relieving the burden of excessive regulation and union
and other lobbyist control are good for education. The taxpayer
benefits. The student benefits. Society benefits.

So
why would the nurses union, whose members are on the ‘front lines’ of
healthcare, want to strip all choice and freedom out of healthcare?

H/T to the WSJ editorial page

PHARMA: What the Zubillaga affair may suggest, by The Industry Veteran

We haven’t spent much time over here talking about the “buckets of cash” scandal that’s been keeping the pharma-focused bloggers very busy, and even less comment on the apparently expensive and rather bizarre purchase of MedImmune. Both concerning AstraZeneca. But The Industry Veteran has been wondering around on the grassy knoll and has come up with a very interesting explanation that links the two:

I spent a good part of the past two weeks in the unaccustomed position of defending AstraZeneca. Equity analysts and others in the pharmaceutical industry seemed astonished by the high price the company paid (a 52 P/E ratio) to acquire MedImmune. Their basic criticism amounts to a complaint that AZ acquired neither an auspicious, late-stage pipeline or a significant cash flow. Both observations are correct but AZ gained other benefits for this steep price. What AZ bought was a place for themselves in two businesses when they acquired MedImmune. Companies typically have to overpay when they want to get into a new game. Ten years ago Abbott paid 40 times earnings when they bought MediSense to get into the blood glucose monitoring business. More recently Novartis paid through the nose to belly up to the vaccine business bar. A few weeks ago Schering-Plough overpaid to buy Organon but Fred Hassan gained stronger positions for himself in the women’s health and the dermatology businesses. Given the current trough in Pharma’s new product development, it’s simply a fact of life that anyone seeking to consummate a merger or acquisition must be prepared to overpay. Fifteen billion dollars for MedImmune is certainly no more outrageous than paying a 42-year old pitcher $15 million for half a season.AZ placed a toe in the water of the vaccine business, something that does not resemble Pharma’s traditional goldmine because a high proportion of vaccine customers are public agencies. Nevertheless, the vaccine business is poised to grow, and if it receives a boost from a pandemic flu epidemic, it will grow enormously. It will also grow substantially if someone makes good on the effort to develop an oncology vaccine or immunizations for the many viral infections that threaten the length and quality of life.In buying MedImmune AZ also acquired capabilities for entering the biologicals business. At this point the multi-billion dollar products of companies such as Amgen and Genentech do not face the precipitous revenue losses that occur when Pharma companies lose patent protection on their products. This is because most regulatory agencies have not developed guidelines for determining acceptable thresholds to approve generic versions of biological products. Congressional waterboys for the biotechs, such as Sen. Ted Kennedy, want makers of generic biologicals to conduct the same sort of clinical trials for their products as the original developers of the branded biologicals. Faced with such high development costs, the generic model of low cost equivalents becomes unsustainable. Nevertheless, despite the disingenuous concerns of Sen. Kennedy and others, Congressmen wise to Pharma such as Henry Waxman and Bernie Sanders will eventually succeed in creating some form of "bio similar" legislation. The country can only tolerate so many stories about people who died because they were unable to make even the co-payments on biological medications costing between $40,000 and $200,000 per year. At that point there will be a major demand for an entire industry of generic biologicals.During the two weeks I was defending AstraZeneca’s purchase, CEO David Brennan and John Patterson, the VP for Clinical Development, did their best to undermine my claims about their wise purchase.

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POLICY: The New York Times, sigh

I guess I spend too much time getting grumpy about the use of space in the NY Times, but come on. Atul Gawande is a great writer who writes fascinating articles for The New Yorker. But when it comes to his solution for health care? He gets not one but two op-ed columns in the New York Times. And what does he say in Curing the System? Following the Massachusetts system might be an option. Or we can expand SCHIP. That’s it. To say the same thing I used one line.  I think the NY Times
owes me (or someone) 2 columns to really discuss health care. After all
they’ve spent plenty of time licking sores about the issue.

 

PHARMA/PHYSICIANS: ESRD centers having the curtain pulled back

The NY Times shows that apparently doctors owning ESRD centers and others running chemo-infusions centers reap millions for Anemia drugs .
Who knew? OK, anyone reading THCB for the past few years knows all about this, but now that it’s hitting the NY Times (which got a former clinic director to open his version of the books showing that docs in a 6 person group made about $450K a year each on their sale of the drugs) and now that hearings have already been held, and the FDA’s issued a warning, perhaps something may change…

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