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POLICY/INDUSTRY: WHCC2006 Employers and plans

I’m at the WHCC as the official blogger! First up is a session with big employers and their vendors from the plan world (although apparently George Halvorson from Kaiser had a minor heart attack and has been replaced by Jay Crosson from Permanente)

Ivan Seidenberg, CEO Verizon, wants portable affordable insurance, and more IT use in healthcare. Broadband will save the day! (In Virginia, Inova is using their broadband to run its eICU), and this will end up in the home, in his vision. And we should have EMRs for all, personally managed but available to all providers. Verizon is going to provide a PHR for its employees, with coaching et al.

The senate has passed legislation to help promote EMRs, and he wants more from the government on this! And he applauds those who have looked “beyond” employer mandates, and he thinks that consumers will demand the information and disrupt the marketplace.

Michael Critelli, CEO Pitney Bowes, heads a company that’s (somewhat famously) looked closely at chronic care. They have avoided cost shifting by changing the infrastructure costs. They created on site medical clinics for routine needs of employees. Services and Rx are free. The average costs of those in the clinics is lower than the rest. Their spend was 20% lower than those they benchmark. In 2000 they got a big rate increase, and so then tried to figure out what was happening? The biggest problem was people not taking their meds because of cost. So they moved to expanded coverage for generics, and lowered the cost for first line Rx, and got rid of costs for preventive services. Added costs are the main reason for people skipping coverage, plus high health costs are hitting earnings in Corporate America. So we still need to do more.

Critelli: The workplace is not necessarily the best place to reach people…perhaps the broadband approach might work (as Seidenberg said)

Jay Crosson thinks that high deductibles have incentives in the wrong way. 1%  of Kaiser patients run up 40% of the costs. He likes the Pitney Bowes concept.

H Edward Hanway: Worried that the perception that CDHP is just a cost shift. Corporate CEOs may be interested in behavior change and are interested in spending their money in different ways. A perception that they’ll have to work hard to dispel!

Jay Crosson; Financial responsibility is OK, but just imposing large deductibles is a blunt tool.. KP trying to create a clinically driven high deductible plan

Seidenberg—verizon supports a mandate to change something. Current system has run its course. Verizon wants to participate in that redesign, but wants to get out of the health care business. We don’t buy houses, buy cars, why should we be in the business of buying health care? We need to get out the language of shifting cost, to that of “shifting responsibility”. America must be ready to tackle the overall issue.

Hanway–Information and health coaching works no matter what the financial incentives, so far based on what they see from their data, even if their financial responsibility increases. But it cant just be “stick a HDHP on them”.

What about Romney care? The audience mostly think it’s a good start (only 25% think it’s terrible and 1% think its a real solution)

Jay Crosson—hopes that employers won’t leave health care coverage. But we’re in a lifeboat and everyone’s got to pull on the oar, or we run the risk of all this going in the wrong way.

Seidenberg—we want to get out of the business of wholesale subsidies. We found that people were buying drugs and not taking them. Should there be financial incentives to providers to make them do that. Also he supports vouchers and ways to buy into the system. But he thinks that competition across plans will help

Hanway—Mass will prevent insurers from creating affordable insurance, but the direction is encouraging.

Crosson-individual mandate is one way to get everyone in the game, which we need.  But will there be insurance available to buy? Where will the money to come from to subsidize care for those who cant afford it? Where’s the mechanism for restricting costs?

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This is my first notes of an interview with Michael Critelli, CEO Pitney Bowes. Definitely one of the CEOs in America who’s thought most about this topic. Most of the questions were submitted from the audience in rather interesting system from VisionTree.

What about the cost that are from the most significantly disabled/sick people?

By the time that they become disabled, no choice but to manage their condition in conjunction with them. CDHC is a long term investment to prevent significant disabilities, it’s a piece of a solution but not so appropriate when you get to significantly disabled people. At that point you are trying to get them to take charge of their conditions… but there are many things they can do even then (diet, exercise, following treatment)

What about the role of insurers?

Insurers are working to improve the outreach, but some more enlightened than others.  Some do better than others. some are better at collecting data, others better at identifying high quality providers, but overall a mixed result…

Why cant health insurers push harder to get transparency?

There’s a range of behaviors by consumers. Some prefer simplified pricing, others like to buy a la carte…saying that everyone wants standard pricing ignores the fact that restaurants don’t all offer prix fixed meals. The best solution would be a combination of simpler and more complex pricing.

Why is PB an outlier in its health strategy?

Too many employers looks at this as a cost item year to years rather than a long term investment-when you’re cost driven you have the perverse outcome. There has been a lack of leadership in benefit and HR functions. Could we have had this ten years ago? Yeah and there were equally stupid business leaders then (direct quote!)….in their own business (mail services) procurement people don’t look at life cycle costs over procurement. People are very scared of factoring in real consequences of decisions. When PB built the clinics they took a leap of faith that it would save on absenteeism, but they couldn’t precisely quantify that, and the people running health care internally wouldn’t give it credence but he overruled them…luckily

Are PBMs a help or hindrance?

Can be used for positive or negative results. If they monitor usage for compliance or drug reactions it’s a positive. PBMs also a source of information as to whether they’re using rescue drugs rather than preventative drugs. In the wrong hands can just be a tool for cost shifting.

Are the major PBMs saving employers money?

Given their growth I assume that there must be doing something right. The people who run them are pretty sharp

Is it too much to ask that employers partner with employees?

Employer/employee partnerships improve outcomes, productivity, quality. Always a benefit to the employer doing that for the spin-off effects….even if not providing health insurance there is still be a benefit to doing that partnership

Is health care IT going to save money?

The portable PHR is going to be a significant part of the solution. To get physicians online needs a comprehensive IT program that is top down driven. Providers are not going to invest in IT unless there’s a network effect. Providers don’t want to put a lot of money into supporting the systems, needs to be some part of a larger universe. Government and industry (tech vendors) have to come together on common data standards (need UPC equivalent) Will take a long time. PB has been at it in  postal reform for 11 years. If 10 years from now we had PHR standards that would be a success.

Health plan profits are at record highs—are they providing value?

Employers not happy. Got to have the sense that the money they’re paying in is being reinvested to improve outcomes. Some plans are doing better than others, but overall the position is mixed. The one area that more needs to be done is to use traditional marketing segmentation tools to identify the diverse populations that they cover and see what works

 

 

POLICY/THE INDUSTRY: Ethics 101, we’ve failed

Fred Goldstein, a health care veteran who believes in the free market, calls a spade a spade in a hard hitting call for ethical improvement in health care over at HealthLeaders. Go read his list of transgressions which we all know about individually but are hard hitting when read together. Bonus points if you can name the guilty. His point is that it’s pervasive because we’ve collectively let it happen. Here’s his conclusion.

Unethical behavior exists among healthcare organizations and professionals of all types. Organizations that try to do the right thing are often outmaneuvered by those that do not. Self-interest is often hidden behind a facade of patient concern. “We do this for the patient. If you withhold our services, you will hurt the patient.”Worse, these self serving behaviors have become so common that professional outrage has been dulled. But to save healthcare, we can’t just take these acts for granted. The prevalence of inappropriate actions in healthcare drives additional margins in the industry’s supply, delivery and financing sectors. It is at the root of our cost explosion and our healthcare crisis. And, it is based on an ingrained acceptance of unethical behaviors.The recent movement toward transparency and quality reporting will shine a bright light on some of these practices, and should tone down the environment of opportunism. But many of these behaviors have been well known for years. I have little faith that, with so much money at stake, any reforms can be substantial enough to turn around the industry. This is especially true if change does not support and engage much more participation from payers and consumers.

POLICY/INDUSTRY: Posting prices is all we need–yeah, right. Paul Ginsburg on transparency

Paul Ginsburg from HSC doesn’t quite have Uwe’s ability to damn but stay "just this side ofthe line". On the other hand he has a solid base in very sensible research. When they start talking about price transparency someone in Congress had the good sense to drag him in. This was Ginsburg’s testimony about Consumer Price Shopping in Health Care. I’ve abridged it and commented a little:

Unfortunately, much of the recent policy discussion about price
transparency downplays the complexity of decisions about medical care
and the dependence of consumers on physicians for guidance about what
services are appropriate. It also ignores the role of managed care
plans as agents for consumers and purchasers in shopping for lower
prices. Well-intentioned but ill-conceived policies to force extensive
disclosure of contracts between managed care plans and providers may
backfire by leading to higher prices.

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ut we need to be realistic about the magnitudes of potential gains from
more effective shopping by consumers. For one thing, a large portion of
medical care may be beyond the reach of patient financial incentives.
Most patients who are hospitalized will not be subject to the financial
incentives of either a consumer-driven health plan or a more
traditional plan with extensive patient cost sharing. They will have
exceeded their annual deductible and often the maximum on out-of-pocket
spending. Recall that in any year, 10 percent of people account for 70
percent of health spending, and most of them will not be subject to
financial incentives to economize.

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In addition to those with the largest expenses not being subject to
financial incentives, much care does not lend itself to effective
shopping. Many patients’ health care needs are too urgent to price
shop. Some illnesses are so complex that significant diagnostic
resources are needed before determining treatment alternatives. By this
time, the patient is unlikely to consider shopping for a different
provider.

snip

So there is a solution — THCB readers who know that I’m an Enthoven disciple will not be too surprised as to what it is.

Some of these constraints could be addressed by consumers’ committing
themselves, either formally or informally, to providers. Many consumers
have chosen a primary care physician as their initial point of contact
for medical problems that may arise. Patients served by a
multi-specialty group practice informally commit themselves to this
group of specialists-and the hospitals that they practice in-as well.
So shopping has been done in advance and can be applied to new medical
problems that require urgent care. This is a key concept behind the
high-performance networks that are being developed by some large
insurers.

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Even when services are good candidates for shopping by consumers,
comparison of prices is not easy. Much treatment is customized. For
example, an elective rhinoplasty, more commonly known as a nose
reconstruction, is not a commodity, and a plastic surgeon cannot
provide an estimate without examining the patient. Often a medical
treatment involves an uncertain number of services by a number of
separate providers, but few bundled prices are available in the
marketplace today. As mentioned above, limitations in useful
comparative quality data make patients reluctant to choose a provider
based on lower price.

Snip

But the Cato guys tell us that LASIK surgery is cheap and got cheaper because of consumer facing price competition. So what about those self-pay markets that we’ve herd so much about? Turns out that’s not quite so clean either.

LASIK has the greatest potential for effective price shopping because
it is elective, non-urgent, and consumers can get somewhat useful price
information over the telephone. Prices have indeed fallen over time.
But consumer protection problems have tarnished this market, with both
the Federal Trade Commission and some state attorneys general
intervening to curb deceptive advertising and poorly communicated
bundling practices. Many of us have seen LASIK advertisements for
prices of $299 per eye, but in fact only a tiny proportion of consumers
seeking the LASIK procedure meet the clinical qualifications for those
prices. Indeed, only 3 percent of LASIK procedures cost less than
$1,000 per eye, and the average price is about $2,000. I can only
wonder about the extent to which policy advocates have themselves been
deceived by these advertisements and inadvertently perceived a sharper
decline in prices than has been the case.

For the other procedures that we studied, we found little evidence
of consumer price shopping. For dental crowns and IVF services, many
consumers are unwilling to shop because they perceive an urgent need
for the procedure, and other consumers are discouraged from shopping by
the time and expense of visiting multiple providers to get estimates.
In cosmetic surgery, a limited amount of shopping does occur,
facilitated by free screening exams offered by some surgeons. However,
quality rather than price is the key concern to most consumers in this
market; in the absence of reliable quality information, most consumers
rely on word-of-mouth recommendation as a proxy for quality, instead of
shopping on price.

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So it turns out you need a sponsor

Much of the policy discussion about price transparency has neglected
the important role that insurers play as agents for consumers and
purchasers of health insurance in obtaining favorable prices from
providers. Even though managed care plans have lost some clout in
negotiating with providers in recent years, they still obtain sharply
discounted prices from contracted providers. Indeed, in my experience
as a consumer, I often find that the discounts obtained for the PPO
network for routine physician, laboratory and imaging services are
worth more to me than the payments by the insurer.

Insurers are in a strong position to further support their enrollees
who have significant financial incentives, especially those in
consumer-driven products. Insurers have the ability to analyze complex
data and present it to consumers as simple choices. For example, they
can analyze data on costs and quality of care in a specialty and then
offer their enrollees an incentive to choose providers in the
high-performance network. Insurers also have the potential to innovate
in benefit design to further support effective shopping by consumers,
such as increasing cost sharing for services that are more
discretionary and reducing cost sharing for services that research
shows are highly effective.

Snip

Conclusion:  The need for consumers to compare prices of providers and treatment alternatives
  is increasing and has the potential to improve the value equation in health
  care. But we need to be realistic about the magnitude of the potential for improvement from making consumers more effective shoppers for health care. Whatever the  gains from increased shopping activity, rising health care costs will, nevertheless, price more consumers out of the market for health insurance and burden governments 
struggling to pay for health care from a revenue base that is not growing as
  fast as their financing commitment. For those who have health insurance, their health plan will be a key agent in facilitating their obtaining better value. Government needs to take care not to interfere with this relationship and should
  focus instead on the needs of those without insurance

And what he doesn’t say but we all know is that if you regulate the way the plans behave effectively (and heaven knows there’s enough written about this that I don’t have to tell you how) they’ll start competing amongst consumers about the right things…

POLICY/INDUSTRY: HSC on 10 years of change

Whe I was first figuring out the private sector in health care about 10-12 years ago while Hillary was trying and failing to get reform done, I heard a gazillion people, usually in the strategy or policy dividions of big plans and drug companies tell me that we didn’t need government reform because the market was going to sort it all out itself. And ten years after we got the market reform that meant we didn’t need governmnet reform. What happened?

"In a decade that saw the rapid rise and hard fall of tightly managed care, there was plenty of change but little progress in solving the cost, access and quality problems in the health care system," says Paul Ginsburg in the release about HSC’s 10 year retrospective.

 

You can read the full report here. It’s taken me ten years to figure out what went wrong. Let’s not have that happen again next time, eh.

PHYSICIANS/HOPSITALS/INDUSTRY: Customer service: are new market entrants showing the way?

Interesting piece from a marketing consultant called Chris Bevolo from boutique firm GeigerBevolo Inc., in Minneapolis. The report looks at new entrants into health care services and responses to improve the patient experience at Mayo and Park Nicollet.

The new entrants profiled are Steve Case’s Revolution Health, Best Buy’s eq Life ( a pharmacy with manicures while you wait), and MinuteClinics (nurse practitioners in shopping malls). The choice of Revolution Health is a little off, and its attempts (as well as the track record of its advisory board)  has been well slagged off on TCHB and by Joe Paduda before. But the other two are well worthy of a look.

And the message seems to be a) provide shopping while people are waiting to see the doctor as Americans like shopping, and b) do it in Minnesota, because those Minnesotans like innovation. I actually think that Chris has missed a third option which is edutainment while patients are waiting.  But I’ll have more to say about that when I finally get around to discussing Phreesia’s in-office tablet entertainment/patient history service again.

But while I’m more than half-joking, I am full serious. The level of customer service in health care remains abysmal, and whether or not the market forces plans and providers to do something about it sooner rather than later, it surely can’t hurt for them to get out ahead of this trend.

INDUSTRY: Health Care Mergers up

Jonathan Cohn is very excited that health care mergers are up strongly in the third quarter. I suspect its a blip, as Wellpoint’s got no one left to buy, and who’d want Merck in its present state? But who knows what excites the Volvo driving frappuchino drinking liberal intellectual, these days. (Hint, conspiracy theories around Medicare Part D and health care as the "new defense" might be the answer).

Meanwhile I’ll have more on the PHR later, as I’ve had my knuckles rapped by someone who knows more than me about consumer surveys….

HOSPITALS/INDUSTRY: How stupid is Navigant really?

So Navigant Consulting has been gilding the lily on its expenses in the apparently somewhat shoddy consulting job it’s doing at King-Drew.  Their basic excuse is that their private sector clients (almost all non-profit hospitals by the way) are quite used to not caring about the fact that they do things like leave rental cars in airport short-term parking for a week, take one day trips to work on other clients business, and fly their employees from San Diego to Los Angeles (a two hour drive) on a routine basis, and then send their clients the bill.

So Navigant is apparently dumb enough to think:

a) that their other clients won’t notice them basically calling them dumbb) that the King/Drew contract was sufficiently low profile that no one would care about what they did, despite the fact that the LA Times just won a Pulitzer Prize for investigating other malfeasance at the hospital, andc) that contracts they sign about expense reimbursement policies don’t apply to them.

BTW almost all of my clients either give me a total "capitated" fee for my expenses, or I make damn sure that they have an idea of what expenses are coming down the pike. And I don’t work for anyone who would have to respond to a Freedom of Information Act request!

PHARMA/INDUSTRY: Hurricane Katrina Direct Relief!

I was contacted late last night by Grace Davis who is one of "two moms" who is running a blog helping support relief for Katrina victims. The other mom is Victoria Powell, a doctors wife, who is visiting health clinics (and all types of other places offering help) in Mississippi to see what they need and getting them supplies. It’s a practical and innovative way of cutting through the bureaucracy, and it may be getting to some of the places that are otherwise being missed.

This morning they are putting out a call for supplies for health clinics that are running low on medication. If you are from a pharma company or a wholesaler or have some other way of getting them medical supplies, please go over the Hurricane Katrina Direct Relief! blog and see what you can do to help, or please pass it along to whomever in your organization is coordinating your efforts to help.  Many thanks.

INDUSTRY/TECH: More ways to help Katrina victims: An open source response

Healthcare IT journo Neil Versel has a podcast up on his site of an interview with Jordan Glogau, chief technology officer of Preferred Health Resources, a medical billing services company in Nanuet, N.Y., made the following suggestion:

"Why don’t people nationwide volunteer to put up servers that are running open-source PM/EMR software like VistA or ClearHealth. I am sure that what the Red Cross is doing won’t have enough resources to address all the needs of everyone in trouble in the Gulf Coast states." with some ideas about how health care IT companies can help.

HHS has a site up with instructions for volunteers and many categories of people are needed (everyone it seems apart from consultants, insurance salesmen and policy wonks) .  Go to https://volunteer.ccrf.hhs.gov/ to take a look.

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