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EMR implementation — a saving grace or year of hell?

A friend of mine sent me this link – "Beware of the EMR ‘Ponzi scheme,’ warns physician leader" — earlier this week. The article starts off by saying:

Healthcare IT does not necessarily make life easier for
primary care physicians, says a leader in the movement to make medicine
more efficient and patient-centered.

"When you put an EMR into a primary care practice, your life is hell for the next year," said L.Gordon Moore, MD.

"EMR vendors aren’t really giving us what we need. We have to make a
distinction between a robust EMR with decision support tools, and one
that is just being marketed as a way to improve coding. And we really
need to get out of the E&M coding game."

Yikes. I’ve been in the health care IT market for a while and that’s
probably one of the strongest anti-EMR statements I’ve seen publicly.

I know many readers are physicians — how many of you concur with Dr. Moore?

Shahid Shah is a health care consultant, specializing in IT. He blogs regularly at The Healthcare IT Guy.

Reader mail: EMR advice from an IT insider

JD’s comment on a recent post was so excellent it deserved re-running.

Large medical systems generally have implemented EMRs while small, independent practices have not. It’s not a government or socialism thing. That 13% EMR penetration statistic masks a huge disparity between the bulk of physicians in 1-3 person practices and the minority of physicians in large practices (or at hospitals).

The EMR problem reflects on a larger problem of fragmentation in the US medical sector that serves no purpose for the larger public interest. The Mayo clinic manages to offer some of the highest quality care in the US, does cutting edge research, has some of the lowest rates of unnecessary resource utilization, and pays its doctors a salary. Those things are not accidentally connected (well, the cutting edge research part is).

Given the huge lift necessary to move physicians into integrated delivery systems, I’m not holding my breath that it happens soon. There are things that can be done with private practices, but they present challenges of their own.

One relatively unheralded effort I’ve been involved with is New York City’s Primary Care Information Project, which is providing a good, standardized EMR at highly subsidized rates (over 50%). These EMRs are equipped with public health-directed enhancements like connections to disease and immunization registries and reporting of HEDIS-like data. The plan is to link them in a health information exchange and allow for more sophisticated (and easy to administer) pay for performance or value-based payment. The physicians involved are in small private practices and public health clinics.

But it is a huge slog to get these physicians signed up in the small private practices. For some physicians, the comprehensive EMRs are almost free and yet you have to talk to 20 doctors to get a single one to sign up. It’s not just resistance to change. There is also an attitude among some that they’re making enough money as is, and doesn’t need to make any change. There is a resource problem: these offices have just a couple staff people who aren’t very technically proficient.

This is a big problem. Sometimes staff will undermine your effort to get in touch with the physician because they don’t want to be bothered, and also because they suspect (rightly) that their jobs may be in jeopardy. A large practice can reduce administrative FTEs by about 1 per physician. How this translates into a small private practice is a vexed issue. Do you fire one of the three staff people who have been working with you for years and feel like family? Or maybe your staff actually are family members. Sometimes the solution is to turn one staff member into a part time worker, though that can create its own dramas and problems for solo practices. But if you don’t let anyone go or reduce FTEs, you aren’t going to save money on your EMR.

Problems like this obstruct progress in EMR implementation less in a large institutional context where letting people go or retraining is easier, where tech support is a whole department, where people can spend time thinking about the strategic direction the EMRs serve and can engage in a formal RFP process to at least have a better chance of not getting stuck with a loser EMR, and where large capital investments can be more easily managed as part of the corporate planning process.

Reader mail: Pitfalls of EMR implementation

This recent comment about information technology implementation by a reader named Rob was so excellent it deserved re-running.

I’m a technologist. I’ve been implementing information technology
professionally for 25 years. I’ve been doing EMRs for the last five. There
are lots of ways this can go wrong, large or small.

1) Resistance: People hate change. Sometimes they’re correct. Most
often they’re a self-fulfilling prophesy as, without technologists
having support from above, and engaged knowledge from below, we end up
the scapegoat. You can’t computerize people. You can only make
computers part of their job. Just as you can’t make people fit a paper
form.

2) Hyper-acceptance: Problem-solving people with good intent come up
with brilliant ideas that ignore the basic nature of technology. Even
if you include all stakeholders, unless they trust a professional
technology staff, if they ignore good advice, if they simply order
technologists to do as they say, it won’t work. Information Technology
is really People Psychology, and the best of us know something about
both.

3) Technological Eeyores: A large percentage of technology
professionals are about the machine. They’re about the what and the
how. They’re not about the who. It’s easy to fall into the view that
the system was working perfectly before people got to it. Technology is
90% people. What are they doing? What is the real need? Can we do this
without adding a gadget? These are hard questions to ask, and the
broken and cynical among us won’t ask them. Sometimes they’re right
that no one will listen anyway.

It is said that technology is an artifact of all the compromises the
designers made to create it. I disagree. At its best, it is a living
thing that’s part of what people do; it’s an aspect of its users. It
can’t tell us what to do, though. Nor can it ask. This can all go
right, though. It can be successful.

That takes people. They’re expensive. That’s another thing. Can I,
in all candor, ask that we, as a society, stop seeking cheapness and
start seeking shared excellence? To me, that’s the real issue.

Will tighter credit slow medical technology innovation?

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In its detailed update, Pulse of the industry: US medical technology report 2008, Ernst & Young describes the industry, its opportunities and challenges.

In summary: U.S. med-tech still leads the world, but the larger economy could compromise both the U.S. lead in the sector as well as health innovations.

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Do gamers make better surgeons?

Something I had not seen before coming to the U.S. was robotic surgery, even though some UK centres do offer it.

Leonardo da Vinci has had many attributes associated with his name, but what would he think of being eponymously associated with prostate surgery?

da Vinci surgery uses advanced invasive robotics to perform procedures such as hysterectomies, prostatectomies and even mitral valve surgery. The manufacturers claim many advantages from decreased blood loss to the sparing of nerves. It is a shock to walk into a room where the patient appears to have been grasped by a giant mechanical spider, with the legs moving within the patient’s abdomen. The surgeon is nowhere to be seen and if you ask the nurse she will point to a figure hunched behind a box in the corner of the room. Peak behind and you will see a magnificently magnified view from within the patient abdomen from positions you would never see in an open procedure. The surgeon appears to be playing an advanced musical device as the instruments are directed from within.

If you watch a game junky play on their PC, PlayStation or Xbox, the manual dexterity and eye-hand co-ordination is something to behold. So will the next generation of gaming computer nerds be the da Vinci surgeons of the future. A study in 2007 suggests that this may be so. Researchers found that doctors who spent at least three hours a week playing video games made about 37 percent fewer mistakes in laparoscopic surgery and performed the task 27 percent faster than their counterparts who did not play video games.

Even though I am not a surgeon will this evidence be enough to convince my wife of our latest purchase?

Sean Neill is a South African-born, British-trained anesthesiologist, who
recently relocated to Midwestern USA. He blogs regularly at OnMedica about his cross-cultural experience, frequently
pointing out oddities of American health care.

Too much data but not enough information

During the decade I’ve been CIO, IT operating budgets have been 2 percent of my organization’s total budget, which is typical for the health care industry.

During the same period, IT budgets for the financial services industry have averaged 10 percent or higher.

Since 1998, I’ve often been told that Healthcare IT needs to take a lesson from the financial folks about doing IT right.

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Judging personal health records by their usefulness

It appears that at least the first phase of personal health record (PHR) certification from CCHIT (Certification Commission on Health Information Technology) will focus on a narrow set of attributes. CCHIT Chairman Mark Leavitt told a group earlier this month that the first set of PHR standards will focus primarily on privacy, security and interoperability.

Leavitt indicated that functionality standards would initially only address what functions are needed to support privacy, security and interoperability. I asked him the following question: Given that what many consumers need to know is how useful would different PHRs be to helping them and their families manage their health, wouldn’t it make sense to include a broader assessment of functionality in CCHIT’s PHR certification?

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What’s on the horizon of Medicine 2.0

Travel and deadlines got in the way of me posting about the second day of the recent  Medicine 2.0 Congress in Toronto, but I saved my notes.

Something super-cool I saw there: Medting.com, a "global" repository of medical images, developed in Spain and soon to branch out to the U.S. Is it another YouTube for medicine? Not exactly. Miguel Cabrer, president of the company, sees it as more like a Snomed for multimedia.

In Canada, they’re getting interactive with physicians.

Late last month, the Canadian Medical Association launched a social networking portal called Asklepios—named after the Greek god of medicine—on its site. Access is limited to physicians, but CMA online content director Pat Rich says it’s partially in response to doctors who bemoan the demise of the staff lounge.

In the spirit of Facebook and MySpace, it is more than just a professional site; physicians can use Asklepios for blogging, discussing hobbies, posting photos and even, theoretically, dating.

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An international perspective on Medicine 2.0

I’m here at the Medicine 2.0 Congress, a very international meeting put on by Dr. Gunther Eysenbach of the Centre for Global eHealth Innovation, a project of the University Health Network and the University of Toronto.

The meeting is in a place called the MaRS Centre, in the heart of what’s being called the Discovery District. It’s at the corner of College and University, right around the corner from several major hospitals, including Toronto General, Princess Margaret Hospital and Mount Sinai Hospital The conference even has its own blog so I shall try to come up with something original.

Eysenbach opened the proceedings Thursday morning with a discussion about what health 2.0 and medicine 2.0 really mean. I’ll just link to an article that appeared in Eysenbach’s Journal of Medical Internet Research earlier this year.

Don’t believe the hype? Peter Murray, the International Medical Informatics Association‘s VP for strategic planning, just put up a slide of this graphic:

Medicine_2_2

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Complex HIT issues lack absolute answers

HalamkaListening to Obama and McCain you realize that some issues have no absolute right
answer. Pro-Life v. Pro-Choice, Pro-Gun v. Anti-Gun, Less Government v. More Government etc. Everyone has an opinion and often the emotions run high.

The same thing is true about health care data standards and interoperability, although the stakes are a bit lower than life and death issues.

Recently folks have asked me to comment about Carol Diamond and Clay Shirky’s article in Health Affairs which contains potentially controversial statements such as:

Yet after three years of standards documentation and the resolution of several standards ‘disputes,’ we remain a long way from seeing these standards used and implemented to enable health information sharing. As Sam Karp of the California HealthCare Foundation stated in his testimony to the Institute of Medicine Board on Health Care Services and National Research Council Computer Science and Telecommunications Board, ‘Not a single data element has been exchanged in real world health care systems using standards this process has developed or deployed.’

I did not find Carol and Clay’s article controversial. Both are good friends of mine and I agree with their thesis that technology is not enough to ensure successful interoperability. We need to agree on appropriate policies to protect privacy, incentives for implementation, and justifications for continued use of technologies to ensure widespread adoption.

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