JD Kleinke has been one of my favorite people in health care for at least a decade (or probably more!) notwithstanding his barrages at all and sundry (sometimes including me) on this very blog. He’s been a little quiet of late, but that silence is over. He’s out with a new novel called Catching Babies. It’s a topic I’m thinking about a lot! As you may know I’m less than 2 months from being a first time dad, and Indu (my Health 2.0 partner) is similarly close to being a first-time mom. Both me and my wife read Catching Babies in pre-publication and it’s a tour de force of health policy and medical soap opera–Health Affairs meets Grey’s Anatomy–wrapped up in the complex world of childbirth. Now the book is out and we’ll be having JD at the Health 2.0 Spring Fling in San Diego in a fireside chat about the book with Amy Romano (@midwifeamy). but I thought I’d take the chance to interview JD about the book and his previous and next steps. Here’s a (heavily edited) version of our IM chat–Matthew Holt
Matthew: You’re well known to THCB readers as a medical economist, policy wonk, and health IT entrepreneur geek from way back. The obvious first question – why a novel of all things? Does your shift to fiction imply that you’ve lost touch with reality?
JD: Lost touch? That would imply that I was ever in touch with reality in the first place! You may recall that my very first book tried to argue that managed care was a necessary evil for the good of us all, including providers. That the harshness of commercial managed care was the change agent we needed to get hospitals and physicians to modernize. I suppose that turned out to be fiction as well!
Matthew: OK so you’ve always been a bit of a dreamer, I might say the same thing about the health care IT ventures you’ve been involved with. But some of them, like Solucient and HealthGrades, are now pretty successful! And Catching Babies is not just a novel – it’s a great story – but it also has more powerful things to say about a dozen health policy problems than as many treatises on the exact same subjects.
JD: Thanks for the kind words about the story, and if that’s true, it’s powerful as a policy document precisely because it is a novel. For better or worse, this is how all of us, as human beings, relate to even the most abstract health care policy, or new technology, or business idea. Every health policy is ultimately a patient, and every patient is ultimately a story. Medicare coverage is extended for a new treatment because a Congressman’s mother once needed it. The crazy quilt of health benefits mandates at the state level exist because someone in each of those states got sick, was stuck with the bills for treatment, and took his case to the state senate either directly, or via the front page of the largest Sunday paper in his state. If you look back at the news building up to the passage of health reform, you’ll see that public opinion probably crested in support, when President Obama took the stage with the sweet lady from Ohio with cancer who couldn’t get health insurance.Continue reading…

