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PODCAST/TECH: HEALTH2.0/TECH/PODCAST: Interview with Venky Harinarayan, Founder Kosmix

Here’s this week’s interview is with Venky Harinarayan, Founder and (unofficial) CEO at Kosmix. Kosmix wants its new RightHealth site to be the "unofficial home page for health". He’ll tell you about categories and "broad" searching, the intricacies of the search ecosystem, and how Powerset will beat out Google. (OK he may not have said that, but it should get this entry lots of hits!).

This was the first interview when I could see my interviewee over Skype and I found it very unnerving, even though he couldn’t see me!  But you’ll only have to listen. You might well want to play with RightHealth while he’s describing it.

My take is that search is just starting in health care…and that in 2-3 years we won’t recognize it!

PODCAST/TECH: Interview with Luis Machuca, CEO Kryptiq

We had Luis Machuca CEO of Kryptiq on a podcast from WHCC talking about his company’s health plan earlier in May. But he didn’t get to talk much about his company’s business or technology. This interview rectifies that, and it’s another in the series about how messaging and data exchange is arriving in health care. Take a listen to the interview.

HEALTH2.0: Knowledge Prostitution

The powerhouse that is Scott Shreeve, not content with jetting around the US, looking after his newest (and 4th) kid and filling my inbox with amazing stuff, is having a go at prostitutes by comparing them to doctors! Personally I’ve never logically understood the stigma about prostitution, and I like the Heinlein novel where one of the lead characters is a prostitute who charges her son by the hour to see her after he’s 21. After all, they’re providing our society’s most cherished function, and when you pay a high price for great service for anything else in this world it is regarded as a good thing. (And yes I do understand the stigma in this version of the alternate universe).

But I digress….

What Scott’s piece, Knowledge Prostitution, suggests is that for social networking sites to pay members for opinions is not healthy. He particularly looks at Sermo, and he also suggests that the information gained from his inquiry about a rare form of wrist pain is not too helpful.

FD about me and Sermo here. CEO Dan Palestrant bought me dinner to pick my brain (I think I won!), Sermo has paid for advertising for the THCB jobs board, and Sermo is a sponsor of the forthcoming Health2.0 conference—for which Scott is on the advisory board. I like both Daniel and Scott a lot, so it’s good to see a little healthy dispute between MD computer geeks!

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HEALTH2.0/TECH: Kosmix unveils new page

Kosmix has been known for having a number of search engine deals going with Revolution, Vimo and others. I spent a little time with the crew last week down in Mountain View, and will be interviewing Founder/CEO Venky Harinarayan later this week.

What’s most interesting is that they’re going into the portal business in a kind of mix between search and categorization. The site is called RightHealth –here’s an example of the different categories a search for diabetes brings up.

At the moment Ask.com is changing it’s search representation, Healthline is providing a mix of search and content, Healia and Medstory (now part of Microsoft) are doing a separate filtering approach, and you suspect that more is brewing within a small tech company in Mountain View (which BTW has city-wide WiFi up and running there…)

So search is continuing to get more and more interesting. (and yes most of these folks will be at the Health2.0 conference)

POLICY/TECH: AP exposes Gingrich, well sorta

The AP says that Newt’s Center for Health Transformation is a front for companies that want him to promote their points of view and that he’s doing it for the money. Well first this is not exactly news–and Newt has had his ethical issues over the years.

But for some time I’ve been wondering exactly what paying Newt 200K a year gets Sutter et al.. But I think I know the answer and it’s not that he mentions nice things about his members in op-eds or generally promotes things in public that might help them, nor is it that his group is delivering completely compelling research. At least if it is, it doesn’t come up much in his speeches. Maybe ol’ Newt just still have a little pull as a non-official lobbyist, per chance?  Although a little less so since last November.

HEALTH2.0/TECH: PeerWisdom vs OrganizedWisdom

In the great Pacific Northwest, today’s fun start-up is called PeerWisdom, which apparently has pulled down a quick $2m to build something in the patient communities space. They’re not alone of course, and even the articlethat "exposes" them (in an “add”) mentions PatientsLikeMe. And of course DailyStrength and a lot of others are trying to figure out if there’s a there there in not only the patient community realm, but also in using it as a data gathering vehicle. But when one of the most interesting community outfits is called OrganizedWisdom, perhaps PeerWisdom could have thought of another name.

Or perhaps we’re going to get a rash of “wisdom” names and that Charles Mackay dude has lots to answer for.

TECH/POLICY: Obama–looking to Neal Patterson for a contribution?

I was called by the LA Times for a comment on whether increasing access would increase cost. After giving my standard lament about how no one talks about the real underlying problem of practice variation and waste (or at least about the political realities of dealing with it) I thought I should spend a bit of time seeing if that was true. And the answer is that, if you read deep into his plan, Obama does talk about that—although he doesn’t go after a solution quite yet. He instead proposes some intermediate solutions. more disease management, better care coordination, and more spending on health IT. In fact, a lot more spending on health IT:

Obama will invest $10 billion a year over the next five years to move the U.S. health care system to broad adoption of standards-based electronic health information systems, including electronic health records. He will also phase in requirements for full implementation of health IT and commit the necessary federal resources to make it happen.

All you need to know is that health IT is roughly a $30 billion market now. Obama wants to pump it up another 25%. I assume Neal, Judy, Pam Pure et al have their checkbooks out! And now I know why Glen Tullman is such a big fan (Just kidding, Glen!)

Actually to suspend my cynicism, I’m now among the converted and I think that this type of national program is a good idea, so long as it’s done in conjunction with a significant change in incentives. We’ll see how it shakes out as these proposals all develop.

TECH: Healthcare Informatics 100 is not very helpful

The Healthare Informatics 100 list of companies in Health IT is out. It’s fawned over with reverence by lots of companies on the list, and it even gets an encouraging nod from MrHISTalk—who’s usually a lot more sensible. Which is a pity because the list is basically rubbish, and not very helpful to the industry.

Who’s the biggest Health IT company, and #1 on their list? It’s Cardinal Health. Err, really? Well they may have $80–odd billion in revenue, but that’s because they sell lots of drugs wholesale. Even Healthcare Informatics realizes that and has a note saying “share of revenue from IT” and for Cardinal they say it’s 3%. Even that ($3ish billion) from sales in Health IT is a big number, although I think it’s stretching the definition to say that Cardinal has that amount in IT sales. And of course on that logic McKesson should be #2 on the list. But they only make it to #9, somehow down from #4 in 2006

Who’s next? #2 is SAIC. A big time defense contractor with lots of revenue ($8 bn)  from the taxpayer, but only 4% ($200m) in health care. Third and fourth are Henry Schein and CGI. Who? Exactly. (Henry Schein is a medium sized medical products distributor and CGI is a Canadian version of SAIC which bought mid-sized US based outsourcers AMS which had a decent health care business in 2004). Neither of them are real players in health care IT. Henry Schein claims less than $100m in health care IT sales.

#5 is Perot, which is probably in the right place, but #6 is SAS. Great company and all that but it’s probably not even the biggest business intelligence company in healthcare. By the time we get to #7, 8, 9 & 10–Agfa, Sage (ex-Emdeon/Medical Manager), McKesson Provider Technologies and Cerner, we’re now talking about real health care IT companies. Although again the Agfa & Sage rankings are way high as there’s lots of non-health care revenue in there too.

And then there’s a few small companies not on the list — and like in War Games what’s not on the list matters. One is called Siemens, another is GE, and a third is called Philips. Two of those are in the top 4 health IS companies by revenue, not to mention each of their PACS sales alone which probably exceed Agfa’s. For that matter if SAIC belongs on the list where is EDS, ACS, or CSC? (And I’m not talking about #88, an Ohio company with $18m in revenue called strangely enough “The CSC Group”). By the way GE used to be on the list at #1 before it bought IDX because the dummies at Healthcare Informatics used to count its medical imaging business as IT revenue. Now for some reason it’s disappeared.

Finally a bunch of consultants are on the list including some great niche firms like #79 ECG and #89 Healthia. But if they’re on the list where the heck is Deloitte, Accenture, IBM, PWC etc, etc.

So what does Healthcare Informatics, one of the “bibles” of health IT say to defend this schlock it puts out every year?

As you peruse our annual ranking, keep in mind that the data is self reported. As such we rely on the companies to report only healthcare IT-generated revenues and to do it accurately. Though not perfect we have faith that our survey provides a valuable resource to the industry. <SNIP> Some companies may have a significantly different ranking to previous years because in changes of how IT revenues were attributed or defined as a result of reorganization. And absent entirely are some large industry players due to limits on the granularity of the information they are willing to share.

So in other words we’re printing garbage, but it’s not our fault. For a start they know that they’re not ranking companies by their health IT revenue or else they wouldn’t have Cardinal #1, SAIC #2 or Henry Schein in there at all. So it would be easy for them to rank the order by reported health care IT revenue. Why they don’t do that I can’t fathom.

But that’s not the real problem. Do you think Forbes uses the “self-reported” approach when it’s putting out its list of the world’s richest people. Do you think that the Hong Kong shipping magnates, Colombian drug dealers and Arab princes and terrorists on their lists fax in a form detailing their net worth?

Exactly how hard would it be for Healthcare Informatics to make a couple of phone calls to Wall Street (which of course knows the real numbers), do a bit of real investigative work, talk to a few consultants and come up with a decent list. That would provide a real “resource to the industry”. But someone coming to try to figure out the real state of who’s big and who’s not in health care IT from this list would be hopelessly confused.

CODA: And if you’re searching for Healthcare Informatics online, good luck

TECH/POLICY: Mr Quinn is a little cynical about Dr Brailer

Ex-Health IT Czar David Brailer is starting a fund for health care IT with a pretty damn ambitious goal — reducing health care costs —and some $500m in funding from the state of California (or at least its employees pension plan CalPERS). Most amusing comment so far is from my old i-Beacon colleague Matt Quinn.

Dr. Brailer is starting a healthcare focused VC company with a pretty significant benefactor…too bad this wasn’t around in the i-Beacon days! I really don’t think that more money flowing to entrepreneurial HIT companies will solve the underlying reimbursement, financing and adoption issues that are limiting HIT today.

It will make for a more interesting HIMSS, though.

I look forward to sharing a pint or two of that “interest” with Matt and Dr Brailer too!

TECH: Fotsch talks sense on PHRs (let’s hope someone’s listening)

There’s a whole lot of rubbish talked by various MDs quoted in an article in Modern Physician called PHR liability, data overload making docs a little queasy. Essentially they’re all saying that they’re gong to be overrun by patients with printouts of their PHRs and because they’ll miss something on page 97 they’ll get sued. And one MD in particular Joseph Heyman (with whom THCB has had its run-ins before) is quoted as saying

there is a risk of ‘garbage in, garbage out,’ and if the record is populated by the patient, there are errors of understanding that can be inputted by the patient.”

It’s just the same as saying that if you give patients email access they’ll abuse it. Lots of doctors talked about that in the past. Several studies have shown it’s not true. You have to truck through a lot of rubbish in the article to get to someone who knows what he’s talking about. Luckily dog-owning Medem CEO Ed Fotsch does, and it’s worth reading:

Edward Fotsch, M.D., CEO of PHR-provider Medem, says that was something he rarely experienced during his years as an emergency medicine physician, ending in the early ’90s. “I saw 10,000 ER patients, and I can remember on one hand the number of patients who had any documented information when they came in,” he says. Fotsch says much of the confusion surrounding PHRs stems from a misunderstanding of what they are.“A disk with a mishmash of information is not a PHR, because I could call my dog a ‘Ferrari’ if I wanted to, but that doesn’t make him one,” Fotsch says. “A personal health record is, by definition, an online collection of structured data.” <SNIP>While agreeing that standards are needed, the AAFP’s Waldren disagrees that PHRs need to be Web-based. Although he thinks that Web-based models will eventually dominate the field, Waldren says there are desktop PHRs available “that are networkable.” But Fotsch wonders if the models mentioned by Waldren allow secured online communication between physicians and patients. Without that, Fotsch says a PHR is like an automated teller machine with no money in it that only allows you to check your balance. Fotsch says a PHR should resemble a continuity-of-care record or continuity-of-care document—two vetted and accepted formats for transmitting basic patient-care data. The PHRs should have defined fields where particular types of data should be entered and displayed, and they also should feature a secure e-mail connection between patient and physician. “There’s a structure around a personal health record,” Fotsch says. “So, if you say you accept a personal health record, you know what you’re accepting.”

So a structured useful PHR should be a good thing for doctors. And surprise surprise that’s what patients want to. So can we have a little less kvetching about this wave that‘s coming and a little more helping patients get these things?