Matthew Holt

Bill Maher explains why government-run health care is a good idea!

Maher’s being funny (at least he thinks he is!), but he’s tapping into a meme that I think that many in DC including any Democrats are missing. I was watching CNN on Sunday and Sanjay Gupta brought up the question to Bill Clinton and (and Bill Frist, John Podesta & Mehmet Oz) about whether single payer was really off the table. The answer is, it’s not if they get this wrong (and they will). If we have a mealy mouthed reform this time (a la Massachusetts) then single-payer will be back with a vengeance in a few years.

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I love how Maher leaves out certain details to prove his point. Sure the post office is efficient, but it’s broke as a joke.

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hi..i read this blog and did not think a whole lot about it……..so…..yeah i think you might need to reread this and write it over again….

Elyse
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I lived with government run health care for 5 years in Japan. I was in fear daily that a member of my family would need serious medical attention. Americans living in Japan would leave the country to find good healthcare when needed. I have stories that would curl your toes on how terrible the medical system is in a country with government run healthcare. I am mortified that this type of mediocre healthcare will exist here and I would love to spread the word. People need to know what will happen if Obamas plan passes!!!!

Mike
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Mike

Let’s hear all of the facts. The USPS recently announced that it expects to lose $6.5 billion dollars this year. There are no easy answers and the flippant humor of Maher offers nothing new to the table.

mmv
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mmv

Doesn’t this man work for one of those big bad corporations? These people make billions but its always other people’s money that’s bad.

Keith Richard Radford Jr
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Keith Richard Radford Jr

Healthcare Fraud! WellCare is Amazing! One of the stipulations with this web bases insurance company?, is their conditions of service which includes to never visit a website showing sexually explicit material, (where I already have a problem) Material? ya jes can’t get lipstick stains from a monitor, but and everyone has one! I have never signed with this company yet they have sent me their card to use through our California Social Security Service as free additional help? Finding me through my medical records or SSI office? Sending me page after page which I save every one never really understanding… Read more »

Nate
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libertarian websites?
yahoo news?
USPS.com?

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rbar

Nate, he whole discussion about USPS is somewhat silly, and probably it should have never been started with that clip. The USPS is impacted by economic downturns (I provided some links above). They cannot do the cost cutting as they want to and as a private company could – that is why they currently ask Congress to eliminate one day of delivery. It’s similar to the police, they cannot simply leave certain areas uncovered or reduce services they are mandated to do. The propaganda that you read (and occ. copy&paste) on libertarian websites does not consider that USPS gets well… Read more »

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Wendell, Bill Maher, rbar, and assorted other liberals that still believe government is capable of running anything, do you still think the USPS is a good model? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090325/ap_on_go_ot/postal_woes Postmaster General John Potter said Wednesday the financially strapped U.S. Postal Service will run out of money this year without help from Congress. The only lingering question, Potter told a House subcommittee, is which bills will get paid and which will not. The Postal Service was $2.8 billion in the red last year and is facing even larger losses this year due to a sharp decline in mail volume in the weak… Read more »

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Sorry you hate facts so much Wendell Murray that doesn’t make them disappear. You can bury your head in the sand, don’t expect the rest of us to follow your poor decision making. If you doubt USPS lost billions last year google it, allow me to help; From their own website http://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/2008/pr08_118.htm The U.S. Postal Service concluded the 2008 fiscal year (Oct. 1, 2007-Sept. 30, 2008) with a net loss of $2.8 billion The ability of those on the left to deny facts has always amazed me, even more that you not only deny then but choose to go on… Read more »

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“Medicare for All” has about as much chance with Republicans as “The Fair Tax” has with Democrats.

Wendell Murray
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“unaware of the billions it bleeds every year” I doubt there are any facts to back up this assertion, but bringing the USPS into this kind of discussions is typical and typically counter-argumentative to those who introduce it. The analogy is always cited by the know-nothing right-wing. The USPS does in fact provide excellent service for the mass of users across the USA. It likely provides that service cost-effectively, but I am not interested to looking up the statistics. “To factually correct your statement almost every advanced industrialized country in the world provides better care more efficiently then Medicare, Medicaid,… Read more »

Nate
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Nate

First up would be the fraud rate, you can’t lose 10 cents on every dollar, just not acceptable. Second would be slow evolution, no Rx coverage till 2006, not acceptable, things change and health plans need to change with them. Third incomptetent management. When Diagnostic spending exploded they drastically cut reimbursements. This means legit test where paid below cost while illegit ones where as well. Utilization problems are not solved by cutting reimbursements. fourth is service, Medicare nor it’s intermedaires are not known for great service, if your unhappy with it, to bad you have no option. Fifth, if you… Read more »

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Nate, It is apparently not only the USPS’ deficit – which apparently turned into profit at the latest in 2004 http://multichannelmerchant.com/news/USPS_profit_120705/ – that scares you, but the mere existence of a governmental agency that might be quite popular among users http://www.allbusiness.com/company-activities-management/operations-customer/5643843-1.html so scary that it makes you copy and paste your 2nd paragraph straight from the heritage foundation … But since this is thehealthcareblog and Maher’s comment rather a starting quip (about government possibly working) than economic analysis, let’s leave USPS behind and resume discussing healthcare, or, more to the point here, government run healthcare like medicare. I am genuinely… Read more »

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Nate

The more I think about this the closer I see the analogy between he two systems. As insurance becomes more expensive and congress passes more bills driving up the cost fewer people can afford it making it more expensive which means fewer people can afford it and thus a self perpetuating cycle till death. ” The U.S. Postal Service is having some serious financial trouble that could result in a 5% or 6% postal rate increase for magazine publishers next year. The USPS lost $1.1 billion in the third quarter and expects to continue losing until the year’s end.” It… Read more »