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The British are revolting!

The BBC (British Band of Communists) has created an appalling piece of propaganda suggesting that the American health care system is an unfair mess. And they’re not exactly too polite about the rest of America, including setting up some doubtless fake multi-millionaire with a spendthrift wife to look ridiculous while saying that we shouldn’t be sharing the wealth.

And if you want to watch it, luckily it won’t be shown here on TV. But those communists have now invented something call YouTube, so you can see it there. But I’m sure none of you realists will want to watch it, and instead will join my call to make sure that these tax-subsidized radical extremists are banned from these shores.

And of course, these are the fools who claimed that spaghetti grows on trees.

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Yana
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Yana

@andrew To me, there couldn’t be a more wasteful way to spend money than to purchase health insurance. However, since your point seems to be that people shouldn’t look to others to pay for their care, I have another solution. Although I think this discussion is likely moot, because as usual, when things are done wrong, correcting them becomes extremely expensive. And we are on the verge of change that must come and will come. The alternative could have been to dispense NO FREE CARE to anyone (excepting ER), and removing the insurance companies entirely from the picture. Outlawing them,… Read more »

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andrew

Yana, I do not care if you choose to spend money on something frivolous as opposed to healthcare, I just think its morally questionable that when you do need something done, you look to others to pay for it. Matthew, the BBC, that bastion of impartiality continues to empploy Jeremy Vine who I find almost as annoying as Sarah Kennedy (reference may be lost on non Radio 2 listeners, that said I can not get my head around the attitudes and beliefs of someone like Foster Fries (spelling?). This is someone who is so divorced from reality, that he’s actually… Read more »

Barbara Thompson
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Barbara Thompson

I have a couple of points to add to the discussion: 1. Having medical insurance is not the same thing as obtaining medical care. Many people are denied care because an insurance company has determined their situation does not warrant it – pre-existing condition, did not notify before treatment, experimental treatment, hit lifetime maximum, etc. Some of the SCHIP people fall into this category regardless of their income level. 2. You talk about paying for medical coverage for non-citizens as if there is a choice. When an ill or dying person appears at an emergency room, they are treated. If… Read more »

Deron S.
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Matthew – I agree with David MD that some of your attacks of late do not suit you. I’ve read some of your earlier posts, interviews, etc. and you clearly have a solid understanding of the healthcare system. You’ve taken a more divisive approach lately and I think we all, including yourself, would agree that our healthcare problems are of a magnitude that will require a lot more buy-in and input than one side of the ideological divide.

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Peter

David, rich people may fly here for top notch medical treatmen, but those that live here are forced to pay way too much for no better care, even you admit that forcing small employers to pay for insurance would bankrupt them, including those that hire illegals. Your solutions for containing use or at least paying for bad habits will take much longer to enact than healthcare reform (if we ever see that), as it will be a cultural shift. Can’t argue with need for better child care as most now is just warehosing kids, especially for the working poor. As… Read more »

David MD
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David MD

Matthew, you made an ad hominem against Greg Mankiw and his NY Times article. “And I’d forgotten about Manikw, a newer member of the Mark Pauly complete idiot brigade. Thanks for reminding me about one of the stupidest pieces ever printed in the NY Times.” and I said in a previous comment: “Matthew, Greg Mankiw is a peer reviewed Harvard Economist and I don’t understand what is wrong with the NY Times article cited. Could you please be specific?” You put together a wonderful blog and you are very dedicated to health care which is wonderful and ad hominem attacks… Read more »

Matthew Holt
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Nate. See you outside my house. Dont get there too late, but bring quarters for the meter

Yana
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Yana

“The revenues from increasing the taxes on cigarettes can go into helping to pay for health care for the uninsured.” In California, the Managed Risk Medical Insurance Program (MRMIP) is funded by tobacco taxes. Smokers are highly taxed, but it is through MRMIP that my husband and I would be paying approximately $1,500 monthly for insurance. The smokers are being exploited just as much as victims of America’s medical system. Our lottery motto was “Our schools win, too”, but we don’t have air conditioning in the local high school yet, as far as I know, and the schools endlessly beg… Read more »

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Nate

Matthew, I don’t know why I bother responding to you. You just have this way of getting under my skin. I love how your shallow thought and minimal comprehension of complex issues means I hate poor people. Talk about framing the debate, you have it down to a science. I don’t think SCHIP should subsidize insurance for kids in families making 80K plus, so I hate poor kids? I don’t think someone that can afford $180 a month for a pack a day smoking habit should get free insurance, if you can afford to smoke then you can afford your… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

“but I think it would be too much of a burden on smaller firms and may force them out of business.” Maybe a lot of the people being helped by Remote Access Medical are employees of small companies that cannot afford health insurance. David, much of what you say I agree with, but taxing polluting firms for either causing bad health or bad environment has been a multi-decade fight with few victories. Poor people have a harder time being able to eat healthy than finding daycare or even a safe neighborhood. They also many times stuck in old stock housing… Read more »

David MD
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David MD

Please read this very important article and I wish someone would write a post in THCB to emphasize it… http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/12/1221 We Can Do Better — Improving the Health of the American People The key to improving health care in America is focusing on individual health habits (smoking, obesity, lack of exercise) which is especially prevalent in the poor that Matthew cites and environmental problems such as air and water pollution, violence in neighborhoods, lead paint, which is also prevalent in lower socioeconomic classes. This requires passing legislation much like that done by New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg which has helped… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

“there are other things that are needed for US citizens such as better government provided day-care for working mothers with young children.” David, isn’t there an argument that says, “Why should I be forced to pay for a person’s conscious decision to have a child?” You may not want to pay for non-citizen healthcare, but you certainly benefit from the low wages/benefits they receive. If you say employers should be paying for healthcare for their non-citizen employees would you be in favor of mandatory employer health insurance? I’ll give you that Democrats in tobacco states also oppose cigarette taxes. Given… Read more »

Matthew Holt
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Looks kids. The reason I made a joke about this is that it’s not exactly the world’s most thoroughly researched documentary, and of course it’s biased. But step back and consider what they’re saying. You can be poor in America, get sick, and the attitude of some of the wealthiest is “screw you–you should have chosen your parents better”. And as ably demonstrated by David MD, Nate and others here, the documentary is right about that. And even though Hummmers are cheaper than health insurance, how do you know it was a patient’s hummer? Might have been a volunteer doctor… Read more »

Yana
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Yana

I don’t understand why anyone would begrudge someone a Hummer, if that is what they want, or a roof over their head in favor of that person putting out funds for health insurance premiums from which there may be no return. Insurance for my husband and me would cost about $1,500 monthly. We would be required to pay the premiums, but the insurance company could reject claims and would do so if we were not profitable. There is no warranty on services provided and no guarantee of results, much less a diagnosis. I believe in getting value for the dollar… Read more »

Nate
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Nate

I found it pretty funny that the ad under the third video was for treating yellow teeth, maybe the British should address their national dental catastrophe before making documentaries on our system? Rick, You’re mixing up your data. You quoted average family cost for a group policy, of which employees only pay about 3600 of on average with the cost of a family individual policy. It’s dated but in 2004 the average family individual policy was only $4,424 according to AAHP. According to an eHealthInsurance study based on their block of business; “More than half of all family policy holders… Read more »