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Larry Nelson
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People are talking about the film “Sicko.” However, everyone should see the movie “The Hospital” with George C. Scott.
The movie came out in the early 1970’s, but it can apply to our health care system today.

Chris
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Chris

Hi Stuart, I think you just proved my point. If you found a reason to find fault with the stat used, then the whole argument must be wrong, correct? To quote the source in the nice video you linked to (btw: i love the fact that you linked to a video: Written, Directed, Produced, Edited and Narrated By: Stuart Browning) According the US Census Bureau, there were 46mm uninsured in the US in 2005, or 15% of the population (sorry I rounded in my last post). This includes 8.3 million children, or 11.2% of all children. I would argue most… Read more »

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REAL-POLITIK If Cuba, Canada and France are such grand islands of medical competency — may we assume that the Saudi 747s that land near USA medical centers have just gotten lost? http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fsb/fsb_archive/2005/09/01/8277772/index.htm ” .. James Wilson III, a friend of Andrews’s and owner of the Wynfrey Hotel, where many of the clinic’s patients stay, finds visits by members of the Saudi Arabian royal family particularly memorable. “They bring a 747 and an entourage, and they take two or three floors of the hotel,” Wilson says. “Sometimes we can’t get the dang hotel cleaned, because the maids will go up to… Read more »

Stuart Browning
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Chris,
Before labeling opponents “naive”, you might want to first check some of your own premises. I suggest you start with your “50m uninsured” by becoming informed about just who the uninsured are:
http://freemarketcure.com/uninsuredinamerica.php
Also – you might not care about the infant mortailty rate in Cuba – however, dishonest filmakers Michael Moore and dishonest pundits like Ezra Klein, Jonathan Cohn, and Paul Krugman use this bullshit to silence opposition to their single-payer propaganda.
If government-run health care is such a good idea, then why does it have to be “sold” with a pack of lies?

Chris
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Chris

Hi Stuart, I believe it is quite easy to try to find a fact (or two, or ten) that you do not agree with, and use that as a justification for throwing out an entire argument. With this type of debating, I feel like we are on CNN or Fox News. Instead of debating whether Cuba is 39th or 50th on the list, or if the US is 37th or 20th, would it not be more productive to debate the big picture? In a country as rich and prosperous as the US, has the Healthcare system failed to some major… Read more »

Stuart Browning
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Rick –
If you’re confused by the contrast between a totalitarian regime and a free country which preserves the right to free speech and which has a free press – then I’m not sure there’s anything I can do to help you.
However, at least you won’t feel out of place here on Mr. Holt’s little blog.

Rick
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Rick

“. . . Michael Moore, the United Nations, the New York Time’s Paul Krugman, etc. all seem to take without a grain of salt the infant mortality numbers coming out of Cuba’s health ministry.”
Right, because our administration and private healthcare enterprises have robust oversight and no incentives to fudge their numbers. Uh-huh.
Revealing, indeed, Stuart.

Stuart Browning
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Peter –
Only CNN has made the US/Cuba WHO ranking comparison. You’re merely exaggerating for effect here.
By the way, I find it interesting that Michael Moore, the United Nations, the New York Time’s Paul Krugman, etc. all seem to take without a grain of salt the infant mortality numbers coming out of Cuba’s health ministry. It seems that the desire for a single-payer health care system by many here is so great that you’ll abide any lie and accept without scepticism the information put out by a totalitarian regime with a government-controlled press.
I find it quite revealing.

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Peter

“Moore at least has a vision of getting everyone in that pool and making sure that neither the least of us, nor those who got hurt in their finest hour, get left out. Which is a hell of a lot more than can be said for most of those attacking him and defending the status quo.” Good ending Matthew. I note that those condeming Moore seem to point proudly to the fact that we are 37th in the world while Cuba is – wait for it, 39th. And that’s with a trade embargo. Moore IS trying to wake up this… Read more »

Stuart Browning
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Yes, Mr. Holt – maybe you could have helped CNN debunk the United Nation’s (and Moore’s) claim that the U.S. health care system is inferior to that of Morocco(!).
Oh yes, that’s right – I forgot. You spread this propaganda yourself!