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BLOGS/TECH: THCB week off over, more or less

Your host took a (he believes) well-earned break in Europe last week  following some work over there (and no it wasn’t for the NHS). I’m actually still there (here?) having randomly found wi-fi in a wi-fi less world before my flight back to the states tomorrow.  Anyway, I did all the eastern Europe touring I should have done 20 years ago when I lived here, and I recommend Prague heartily.

The main thing of interest that happened while I was gone was that the rumors of IDX’s problems in the UK  (mentioned several times in the excellent HISTalk blog) indeed were true. Fujitsu, the general contractor in the southern region fired them, even though their replacement (another win for Cerner) has had its own issues with the "meet and greet" appointment system. (Yeah I know it’s not called that).

Cerner’s stock price is up some 30% since March, which suggests that Wall Street has decided who the winner is in the HIT game. As my Fiercehealthcare editorial last week suggested, it’s probably a matter of when rather than if one of the bigger tech companies (Oracle is a persistent rumor) decides that they want them.  However, at a PE of 37, Cerner is pretty pricey!

My next real work is on the subject of ePrescribing. So if that’s an interest of yours please drop me an email. Hope you didn’t miss me too much, and I look forward to being a little more attentive in the coming weeks.

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QUALITY/TECH: Better to have a bypass

INTERESTING TIMES for cardiologists, as new research this week in the NEJM suggests coronary bypass surgery may be a better treatment option than stents.  For those paying attention, this is not exactly news.  People have been making the argument for years.  Go read Matthew’s post "Dump the stent have a bypass", written way back in October of 2003, for a deeper look at some of the evidence supporting this theory.

YOU MAY ALSO want to take a quick look at Gregory D. Pawelski’s statement in support of embryonic stem cell research, which is a well-articulated post written from the perspective of someone who knows a bit about cancer treatment.

TECHNOLGY: Too much of a good thing?

Walking the floor at the TEPR show this week brought home the wonders
of electronic medical records. The show had a multitude of
presentations on EMR use, but more than 35 years after the first EMRs
were developed we’re still early in the adoption cycle. Most
presentations were about fairly small-scale case studies. But despite
the exit of hundreds of firms from the EMR and practice management
market, and the slow emergence of several dominant players, there are
still plenty of new entrepreneurial companies with booths — and not
all small ones — out on the exhibit floor. Many of these companies
have new EMR technology that, while it may be more advanced, doesn’t
look that dissimilar to those on show a few years back.  What they lack
is a customer base. But as the legacy players in practice management
and small hospital IT systems have shown, in health care getting into
the market is relatively cheap and you don’t need that big a customer
base to anchor a business.

One of the major problems in physician
adoption of technology is the lack of familiarity with a few trusted
brands, and the insistence on doing everything differently than the
practice or hospital down the street. The sheer number of vendors
willing to support that demand for "doing it different", including
those based on software from physicians who claimed that "what was on
the market didn’t meet their needs", means that we’re a long way from
getting to the status of other industries where everyone is comfortable
with using a few widely known applications.  This might be a case where
we have just too much good old American ingenuity.

Having said that, I saw some interesting products and there are some interesting new developments that I’ll comment on later….

TECHNOLOGY: ePrescribing is about renewals

Edmund (Bill) Billings, another ex-Oceania MD & veteran now runs a consulting company called Phyxe helping docs get up and running with ePrescribing. 

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The first key point is that vendors are not focusing on renewals…when he was judging the contest for TEPR only 3 of the 12 vendors had "renewals" as a word search that came up. Yet renewals are the biggest pain in the system–actually worse than refills.  New scripts are not such a big deal

He had an example of one solo pediatric doc who had 400 kids with ADD who needed a renewal/refill each month. Using DrFirst it went from 10 mins per to less than a minute to do a renewal, and cut the staff time, phone/fax coming from the pharmacy, etc. Another example was a 2 internist practice who used Oncall. They cut phone calls down (Major problem had been legibility).  He cut each activity’s time down dramatically (such as renewal authorization, writing new Rx, Renewal request, calls from pharmacy) and made his practice much more productive. This practice is very satisfied with Rx at their end but less satisfied with the pharmacy processing end of it, suggesting that the pharmacy is up to scratch. And this practice wants to build out from this to get to better messaging, getting Rx authorization up and running, etc.

Overall renewals are a big burden and one that the physician underestimates the impact on on their staff. Sometimes, the doc now does more of the renewals after ePrescribing.

Both of these are ASP based.  Ed says the prices is around  $50 a month but that Docs might pay more when they figure out how much overtime for their staff this might cut down on.

This may be the first time that I’ve seen a real business case for a doc to pay for an ePrescribing app.

TECHNOLGY: TEPR and ePrescribing

I’m in the ePrescribing track with a couple of smart people telling us the ePrescribing will happen. Danny Sands of Zixcorp (and of Harvard) thinks that in the last year it’s really picking up in Mass with 3,000 doctors on board. So he’s an optimist. He especially believes that ePrescribing will be a decent intermediate step for those practices who realistically are not getting to an EMR any time soon.

Tony Scheuth, who I knew when he was hanging out at an original CHIN company called IMS in Colorado, is now a consultant who spends 80% of his time in ePrescribing. He thinks that pay for performance is maybe enough to push it over the top. But at the moment the incentives aren’t big enough (although he’s going to say that the dollars may be big enough in California & Mass). And then he went through the list of the P4P groups and how their incentives are often linked to infrastructure (or more accurately system use).

Of course the whole issue is that there is no financial advantage to the docs unless they’re at risk for the drugs, which 98% of docs are not.

So two optimists.  Perhaps they should both know better!  Or just maybe they might be right?

TECHNOLOGY: Rick Peters on why he’s frustrated

Rick Peters, who founded Oceania and has been around the health care EMR scene for a while, keynotes at TEPR.  He points out a few facts obvious to TCHB readers, costs are up–employers can’t afford health benefits  and so are dropping coverage and putting people into Medical and uninsurance slices on that nice chart from the California Health Care Foundation. And in the new high deductible world, costs are way too much for sick people. He didn’t mention Walmart by name but he and Paul Krugman are on the same page here….

He had a few other fastballs…

  • Med malpractice is a red herring and premiums are are up because the insurance companies really screwed up that
  • EBM: we’re not doing it but DSM may not save much money.  Finally under pay for performance, won’t the sicker patients be kicked out of the practice by the doctor?  So EBM may not be a panacea.  Because 80% of what doctors do is unnecessary, and 80% of these workups were done before.
  • And I think he says (because his slides are horrible) that if we cut back to generic only drugs we’d save a fortune….physicians are not doing the cost effective thing.  And cant blame it all on pharma, 20% of patients who see the ad ask for it, but 70% of the time the doc will write the script/  Plus 60% of scripts are for off-label use (and therefore not EBM).

The result of all this is that we’re doing P4P and building the measurement systems for it. The  focus is getting measurements of what’s going on (and going wrong) not on getting the data that we need, and no ones forcing that on the system (no mandates).  Meanwhile admin overhead costs  physicians 40-60% of their revenue.  We know that EHR along can reduce office visits 9%, PCP visits 11%, and the % of members with 3 or more visits goes down 11% (all KP data).

So why ain’t happening? Generally computer technology is going to Internet based architecture and XML.  Why does health care think its different. Still opposing the adoption of these advanced techniques.  OK, so IT spending is higher elsewhere. But Wall Street spends limited amounts of its money on infrastructure–which it rents–and most of its money is spent on other advanced techniques like data mining.

We are preoccupied with duplicating the patient chart.  Peters thinks that a PDF alone would be good enough to move that data around.  We just need to get the data in useful form. We need that data in whatever form from whatever.  (By the way, for those of you with long memories this sounds like Chris Mayaud’s "physicians as short order cook" line that he was using in in 1997!)

Other artificial opposition — HIS v Amb record vendors; big institutions are not good innovators, but all the money goes to the big elephants. (He was pretty brutal about the IBM UPMC deal). Peters believes that innovation is coming in the smaller vendors integrating PMS/EHR.  But existing vendors cant switch to ASP as they’ll take a revenue hit.  So technology is blocked by business issues.

He thinks that ePrescribing is taking off. Although 99% of mail order/retail pharmacy is already automated. He thinks that SureScripts is driving this very quickly.  SureScripts is an utility infrastructure that is rented not owned.

Rolling this altogether (employer costs, Medicare costs, infrastructure we can plug into is there, tech development tools are better, OPM [Opium or other people’s money] is available if we want it) Peters thinks that we should go straight to revolution and chuck out the evolutionary phase that we’re in.

TECHNOLOGY: On the (Wasatch) front lines at TEPR

Today THCB comes to you from the Salt Palace, just across town from the Mormon Temple.  Yup, TEPR is in Salt Like City, Utah, and I chose this as a nice occasion to get to one of my favorite places (Park City) and do a little cave exploring, mountain walking and paragliding (and hanging out with my friend Regina). Oh, and TEPR is going on here too.

As I sit here the first major technical snafu of the conference is ongoing as David Sundwall, the head of Utah’s department of health is telling us that not only Utah’s CHIN/RHIO, called the Utah Health Information Network (UHIN), whatever is better than anyone elses, but also quite impressively has 100% of hospitals and 90% of doctors on the system.  (The other slides of what he wanted to show about the interloper Johny come latelies in Indy and Massachusetts are not working, hence the PowerPoint data loss in the picture below).

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And then he makes the logical leap, which is that the important information is in the physicians office and that needs to be made electronic. Otherwise the important data has to be re-keyed

56% of physicians here allegedly have EMRs. I’m not sure I believe that, but CPOE is up at 34% of hospitals, lab is 65%, radiology in that range (Yup, Intermountain has a huge market share here– can’t you tell? Here’s more from Brent James about Intermountain’s system).

So we’ve got the RHIO here in Utah, we’ve got a more advanced medical system in terms of IT use, and it’s all happening here (if not in the rest of America)….. and of course the skiing is the best in the world….but make sure that you the miss the trees in the back of Jupiter Bowl at Park City.

TECHNOLOGY: It’s IBM Week!

It’s some kind of a record. IBM has been a top story  
three times this week, culminating in the news yesterday that it’s
going to
be reinventing healthcare IT with the University of Pittsburgh Medical
Center (UMPC). Some of the more cynical observers of the healthcare IT
scene note that UPMC seems to have been down this road with Cerner
before, and that many times academic centers’ alliances with IT vendors
(such as
Vanderbilt’s with McKesson) haven’t really produced that much new and
startling. Nonetheless, Big Blue is taking serious aim at the
healthcare world, while GE is working with Intermountain in Utah
(usually acknowledged to be the leader in "care processes delivery"),
and Kaiser is working hand in
glove with Epic, to name just a few. You can add to that the news that
Accenture is looking to get seriously into the provider implementation
market here (by buying CapGemini’s practice) as it already is in the
UK. Finally, persistent rumors have Oracle sniffing around a major HCIT
vendor purchase,
perhaps Cerner. There is clearly a shortage of good implementation
people on the clinical IT front, and the strategy folks at all these
big companies see healthcare as the next big industry (along with
government) to deliver their paychecks for a mix of high margin
software and consulting services.
I just hope all you providers out there can afford it!

HEALTH PLANS/PHYSICIANS: More patient confidentiality probs at SF Bay area institutions, with UPDATE

So not long after the mess with Kaiser and the Gadfly appears to be heading to a court solution, there are two more weird breaches of patient confidentiality both demonstrating that it’s not technology but the physical security of data and the dealings of employees that are the riskiest part of keeping confidential medical information confidential. 

The first story is really strange.  Apparently a contractor working for Kaiser had some patient data, and tried to recycle carbon paper for their fax machine at a local copy store. But instead of being recycled, somehow it ended up in the paper supply and was sold to another customer who  discovered that instead of being blank, their fax paper had patient data from Kaiser and a Reno ambulance firm. In the end the customer returned it to the copy shop and no harm appears to have been done. (The full story is the second story here) But then again it just shows that this stuff can get out in ways that are hard to imagine, and perhaps every person handling patient date needs to buy a shredder.  I know that I carried around patient date from my 1992 graduate thesis work and only got around to shredding it a few years later!

The other incident is more sinister, and again it appears that the health care organization, in this case San Jose Medical Group, did nothing wrong. However, someone broke into their facility and stole three laptop computers which had patient information and social security numbers on them.  They don’t know if these computers were stolen as a target for identity theft, although they have written to all the affected patients asking them to check with their credit bureaus, or whether this was done just to steal the computers.  But all the same, my source is one angry patient, and I don’t know whether or not this was a HIPAA violation.  Here’s the police report.

All in all a reminder to health care organizations that electronic security is not enough.  Incidentally if you steal my laptop you have to know two passwords to make it start-up and then work for you, and a third to get into my password storing application Roboform.  I suggest anyone reading this who uses a laptop makes sure they are using the root password function that is available by hitting F8 (or a similar key) before Windows starts, and setting a system password required on start-up.

UPDATE: The SJ Merc has more info about this in a story today. While San Jose Medical Group officials seem to believe someone from the outside stole the computers because they were new, the police report doesn’t seem to mention a forced entry. And there’s no word on whether the data was secured with a password, although it appears not to have been encrypted. It does seem that given that a laptop by definition can be mobile (and therefore easily lost), sensitive data should either be encrypted or somehow electronically secured within it.

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