Matthew Holt

Apparently the public perceives a problem

I think health care reform is dead. And the proposed reform was relatively inconsequential anyway, as it would have left in place Medicare as is, Medicaid as is but bigger, employment-based health insurance, and fee-for-service medicine. And with Scotty Brown winning in Massachusetts, and harsh political winds stripping off the Blue Dog votes from the House Democratic majority, it seems that there’s no hope. In that context Obama’s not entirely spirited defense and offer to have a parlay on TV in a couple of weeks doesn’t sound like a recipe for action.

But apparently the public is less happy with nothing than it might appear are politicians. Today’s Washington Post/ABC Poll claims that two-thirds of the population think that we should keep trying—including 56% of the independents who the Dems feared they had lost and even a sizable minority of those claiming to be from the do-nothing party.

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Will this poll make any difference? I doubt it, but stranger things have happened. And it does confirm that although Americans may not like the bill or agree on any solution, they know that the health care system is a big problem.

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Elaine Balliet

It really is amazing to me how Obama can continue to shove along his health care reform as we continue to resist it, in numbers which increase steadily each day. Obamacare=socialized medicine, a HUGE step backward for the United States. What is it about the word “no” that the Democratic Party and its supporters don’t get or fail to heed? The founding fathers of this country wrote the Constitution “for” and “by” the people of the United States, in direct opposition to the way that Obama is leading the United States. Like many of us, and I am able to… Read more »

Nate
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Nate

read any poll margalit, they might not know what it means but they want it 10 times more then they want liberal reform

Joe The User
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Joe The User

Wow, Patty Zevallos’ proposal sounds pretty darn good. Even more, look at the spirit of it. Simplify. There should affordable primary care clinics easily available in every major city. You wouldn’t need any single payer, you would just need to force all the private provided to provide a simple, reliable product at a reasonable price. Congress is full of smart people. No, I’m serious. Why haven’t THEY come up with some equivalent thing? Well, I am terribly impressed by the intelligence of the posters to board. In fact, you all together are an amazing portrait of America in slow collapse.… Read more »

Trudy
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Trudy

This is a poll done by two very liberal organizations. Need I say more? For those of you seeking more power and more money within healthcare, haven’t you gotten enough under ARRA? How about we see how the expense of $200 billion pans out before giving Congress the authority to continue to write thousand page documents defining every aspect of healthcare and spending the rest of our GDP.

MG
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MG

Generic ‘News’ Pundit: What’s your prediction for comprehensive health care reform?
Clubber Lang: My prediction?
Generic ‘News’ Pundit: Yes, your prediction.
[Clubber looks into camera]
Clubber Lang: Pain!
I would take Clubber Lang’s prediction as much as I would anybody’s in Congress or the White House now.
Too many other things on the domestic and foreign policy agendas are that are already here or looming in the very near future to deal with (e.g., commercial real estate loans which are going to really crater in 2012; showdown with Iran including real likelihood Israelis push the US hand).

altruance
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It looks like what is left of any momentum for health care reform has all but died in both the House and Senate. With a super majority and the presidency, the Democrats were unable to get anything passed.
The truth is that we are left with a broken system. People are still being denied coverage, costs continue to skyrocket and “socialized” medicine is becoming a reality as government spending on health care is now surpassing the private sector.

MG
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MG

These kinds of questions & polls are generally less than useless. What exactly does ‘comprehensive health reform’ mean anyways?

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jd

This is not dead yet. I don’t know what new set of compromises will emerge or what will get hacked-off, but Democratic politicians know they have to pass something or they are the ones who are dead in November.
And everyone should take with a grain of salt the advice and gleeful predictions of failure from Democrats’ conservative “friends.” Sometimes predictions are performative acts: they are meant to make what is wished come true by making it be perceived as inevitable. And sometimes advice, of course, is not given to help but instead to undermine.

Margalit Gur-Arie
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Margalit Gur-Arie

“People” want tort reform, Nate?? I don’t think most people know what that means.

Peter
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Peter

“people want tort reform, more choice, less government, and Medicare fixed”
They want fixes with no pain. Isn’t that what Republicans are selling?

Nate
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Nate

“Insurance is for automobiles, where claims are rare” There were nearly 6,420,000 auto accidents in the United States in 2005 There were an estimated 956,846 thefts of motor vehicles nationwide in 2008 that doesn’t include other property claims like being broken into. So I guess it is 7-10 million times per year rare only afecting 1 in 4 people I think I heard. “which is an ongoing and untransparent, surprise and unlimited expense.” Insurance for such things would never work, how do you insure death for example. or a cell phone for example? The answer to your statement Yana is… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

Those are huge numbers Matthew. I wonder how many in the “Keep Trying” group were the screamers in the town hall meetings and the voters in MA. I’d like to see how the poll came out regionally.

Robert
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“Obviously, we need to encourage the “progressive” medicine men to dance and chant their incantations more furiously.”
Lol.

Patty Zevallos
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Healthcare reform can start now with no high price tag Obama and Congress are taking the entirely wrong approach to healthcare reform. We can be doing so much right now to improve healthcare without suspicious price tags. There is nothing wrong with carrying out reform in two phases: the immediate and low price-tag phase, and the longer-term, let’s-find-the-money-first phase. What can be done now, with little public opposition: One group plan Everyone would have access to insurance if all insurance companies were required to offer a plan to individuals as though they were all in one large company group plan,… Read more »

James
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James

“…the market can’t decide until everyone has to pay for necessary and desirable health care.”
Necessary and desirable according to whom?