Matthew Holt

Protest Music at AHIP meeting

This is much more fun and better sung than traditional protests! And given that AHIP would benefit from a public option, I suspect Karen Ignagni hired them. It looks like it happened in the closing session of this AHIP conference on Friday although having sat in many of these conferences I do need to tell the protestors that no plotting is done in these Forums. That happens elsewhere…

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jd- The health insurance industry enjoys a Federal anti-trust exemption and I think you know that. They meet regularly and discuss provider fees and premiums prices. I think you know that too. No other industry in America has this power.

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interesting points jd. I think a few politicians out of greed and ignorance are the problem, they allow themselves to be tools of the lobbies and special interest. I don’t know a way to stop this except to stop allowing government to pass foolish rules. Doctors, pharma, and carriers are always going to want to make more money and will always be willing to bribe politicians to do it. What changes can you make that would eliminate that inherant desire to prosper? I think that desire is healthy, it is only when politicians artificially elevate one interest over all others… Read more »

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Drats- They beat me and Peter Yarrow to it!- See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-yarrow/the-role-of-song-in-advan_b_275426.html
Dr. Rick Lippin
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Oh, and saw that video. Very well orchestrated…in both senses of the term.

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Nate, one of several differences between you and me is that when we look at the failure to control costs you blame government and I blame the industry forces and their ability to influence our culture. Government has too often gotten in the way of cost control, but it is because of lobbying from providers, pharma, etc. AND because those lobbies and hundreds of thousands of individual physicians talking to their patients and neighbors have helped Americans to believe that (1) high costs are caused primarily by greedy insurers getting rich and (2) Those greedy insurers are getting rich by… Read more »

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I agree Matt that was the most persuasive argument yet for the liberal’s version of reform. It won’t save money, it won’t improve care, it won’t avert the budget crisis, and it won’t work, but by golly it was in Key! To follow up on jd’s points, can any of the foaming liberals name one time this supposed anti-trust exemption has been utilized? I live in NV and know very well UHC jumped through hoops to get their two deals done. I have seen a number of mutual companies go public at a cost of billions given to state charities.… Read more »

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DrWonderful manages to get so much wrong. The care is fine? There is an enormous literature on unfounded practice variation and overtreatment, medical errors, failures of care coordination, and defensive medicine waiting for DrWonderful to read it. Regarding the anti-trust “exemption:” First, it isn’t an exemption so much as giving the states the first priority in regulating insurance, including anti-trust legislation. If states don’t do an adequate job, the Feds can step in. Second, the states do often have adequate protections. For example, when United recently purchased Sierra and Pacificare, it had to divest itself of some of its holdings.… Read more »

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Let’s not miss the point here. We do not need health “care” reform but rather we need health “insurance” reform. The care is fine. Having said that we will never actually have health “insurance” reform until the insurance industry loses it’s anti-trust exemption. Currently they are allowed to collude and price fix and very obviously that is what drives up the costs of premiums. If we repeal this exemption they will actually be forced to compete. Right now health insurance companies compete for nothing. They do not compete to lower premiums, they do not compete to lower deductibles, they don’t… Read more »