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Commentology: Government vs. Corporate Bureaucrats

Bob Bourque of Los Alamos writes:

Do I want government bureaucrats deciding on my health care?  You bet I do!  Because the other choice is to have corporate
bureaucrats deciding on my health care.  I have some control over the
government bureaucrats:  I can vote out their bosses who tell them what
to do.  I have no control over the corporate bureaucrats.  They can do
what they please, and pay off politicians to stay out of the way.

Government bureaucrats will charge a few percent for the administrative
work they would do, which is like what they do for Social Security and
Medicare.  Corporate bureaucrats now charge 30% to pay their CEOs
hundreds of millions of dollars and billions to their investors.


"Health care" companies do not
do health care.  They simply collect premiums from us, get the bills
from doctors and hospitals, decide how much they are going to pay, and
pay it.  They are just pass-throughs.  And they skim that 30% right off
the top while doing it.  Of course they are going to fight
tooth-and-nail against a government-run health plan:  It would make
them irrelevant and put them out of business.  And of course they don't
want to give up that cushy gravy train. In all the talk-show
bickering, these simple facts above are being obscured.  The health
care companies don't care about us.  Like all corporations, they are in
it to make money.  And what an easy way to do it.  Why should their
ease and comfort be at our expense?  Get rid of these corporate
bureaucrats and let health care be run by people we have control over –
our elected officials.

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FEDERAL JUDGE SAYS IF THEY DID NOT PROMISE OR SIGN ANYTHING, KICKBACKS ARE OK??? WHICH IS NOT TRUE BY THE WAY. Turning next to relators’ claims based on alleged violations of the Anti-Kickback Statute, the court concluded relators failed to allege “that United Health certified compliance with the Anti-Kickback Act, nor did they allege that such compliance was relevant to the Government’s funding decisions.” The court then declined to exercise supplemental jurisdiction over relators’ state law claims and refused to grant relators leave to amend. MEDICARE FRAUD, MEDICADE FRAUD, AND KICKBACKS AND BRIBES BUSINESS AS USUAL,INSIDER INFORMATION GIVEN. 9B BS… Read more »

progressiveinsurance
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If the government paid the doctors and hospitals what their services were worth, private companies wouldn’t have to compensate the facilities for the Medicare and Medicaid underpayment.

Christopher George
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Christopher George

So, who do you think it would be easier to resolve a dispute with, the IRS, or a private creditor?

Rich
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Rich

We need to stop pretending that the ‘evil’ corporations are run by these mysterious lords of the universe and focus on reality. The government has their hands all over the ‘private’ insurance companies. The DOI’s in each state have limits on product offerings, solvency, cash requirements, payment requirements. Do you know what happens when Honeywell doesn’t pay one of it’s parts suppliers within the contracted number of days? The supplier complains. What about when the insurance company pays late?…fines and payments based on state regulation. The point is, the states regulate insurance companies tightly. If you want more competition in… Read more »

MD as HELL
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MD as HELL

Americans spend twice as much on everything. Why is health care taking a beating for it? Most health care spending is discretionary, not necessary. Other countries are providing a different array of services for their citizens. They really laugh at what some Americans go to the doctor for in the first place. Government like a cancer grows. We as a country are spending and borrowing our country into oblivion. Government must stop spending, period. Government is a black hole which consumes wealth and returns nothing that could not have been purchased cheaper privately. Time to come to grips with reality,… Read more »

Phillip
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Phillip

The other inconvenient fact/truth for many against healthcare reform is that government run healthcare works better in just about every other industrialized country on the planet. No other country wants the U.S. private healthcare system. Foreigners just laugh at Americans for even having this debate. I would be laughing too, if it was not so sad. U.S. healthcare is made up of islands of excellence in a sea of mediocrity. And we pay twice as much for it.

short term health insurance
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You can vote elected officials out, but you can’t select to not pay taxes. If I am unhappy with my insurance premiums or benefits, I can stop paying them and go to another company in a second. No matter who you hold accountable by ‘voting them out’, you aren’t going to be able to stop what they started. They are taking your money for what they claim is your own good. Insurance is HIGHLY regulated. No rate increase goes through without getting approval from the government in each state. Every policy must be approved by the government before insurance companies… Read more »

Just me
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Just me

A great example of government health care, as well
as government oversight.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/sep/19/meds-in-old-hospital-cabinet-a-shock/

Insurance in Ohio
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I wonder if forcing the insurance companies to cover pre-x while also adding more healthy individuals to the overall insurance pool would not help to solve some of the problems. I’m still not convinced that govt run health care will provide an overall fix.

Nate
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Nate

Do you really think it is easier to vote out a Senator once every 6 years then it is to change insurance companies? After 20 years of Harry Reid I’ll try my luck with the corporation, they can be fired at will unlike our politicians for life. “Government bureaucrats will charge a few percent for the administrative work they would do, which is like what they do for Social Security and Medicare. Corporate bureaucrats now charge 30% to pay their CEOs hundreds of millions of dollars and billions to their investors.” There is the problem you can’t even get the… Read more »

mike scooter
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mike scooter

Some of you folks want the government to interfere.
The point you’re missing (or ignoring) is that the government is going to interfere with me too. You don’t have that right.
Reform, yes. But not these abominations (I’ve read HR3200).

MarkS
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MarkS

Duane,
Both Medicare and Medicaid have lower costs and expenses than private insurance so we do see the potential here.
You don’t have a choice with private insurance. They won’t insure you with a ‘pre-existing condition’ and they will drop you if you get a serious illness.
I’d like to have the option to vote with my money and buy government run insurance. I’d be happy to pay for Medicare insurance (I’m 62 and hoping that I can stay healthy until I’m eligible).

duane agamau
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duane agamau

Government already has two healthcare programs and if they lived up to their promise this debate would not be taking place. When you say you have some control over your elected officials, what are you thinking? Your vote with your dollars is a far more powerful vote. Voting with your money is immediate. Believing there are only two parties and accepting one or the other is a diluted alternative at best.

I want government involved.
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I want government involved.

Drug manufacturers should be able to charge whatever the market will bear, and when people are in pain, and afraid, the market will bear quite a bit. What right does government have to interfere in the Pharma-patient relationship? I want the government to interfere. The government can bring drug prices down. Take a look at the bargins that the Veteran’s Administration has secured. On average, the VA pays 58% less than Medicare for prescription drugs. I want government to do that for Medicare. The VA has a formulary, a list of drugs that it has approved for its patients. The… Read more »