Matthew Holt

A liberal is a conservative exposed to the NHS

The old adage is that a conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged. So I was much amused by this letter from a Republican to the local paper (Salt Lake Tribune) in the most conservative state in the nation (Utah). I particularly love the line I’ve bolded below because that—not all the right wing BS about effectiveness of cancer care or waiting lists—is the difference between universal health care and what America has—MH

After being laid off, I joined the 300,000 Utahns too poor to pay for health insurance. There are 47 million uninsured Americans and millions more are underinsured. Being a staunch Republican, I always resisted the notion of universal health care. But after having spent time with my son’s family in London, I’ve had an awakening.

My son’s old back injury got prompt and thorough attention. My daughter-in-law received comprehensive care for her challenging pregnancy. My new granddaughter was attended to by skilled nurses and physicians. In virtually every other civilized nation, no one fears losing everything due to some medical catastrophe. (MH emphasis added)

Americans deserve better than what we now have. Choice is an important American tradition. Let people choose between the for-profit insurance they have and a public health-care option like Medicare. A public health-care option is the only way to guarantee health care for all Americans. Any legislation without it is just more of the same broken system.

Insurance companies are afraid of a public health-care option because they will have to provide better service at lower cost to compete. But if President Barack Obama’s health-care plan gets changed to exclude a public option, then it is not health-care reform.

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gabriel givens
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Why not pass healthcare? If we do not regulate healthcare eventually in will bankrupt our Nation’s economy. Out of controlled healthcare cost will eventually bankrupt America & Without money we- Cannot fund education, we cannot maintain the prison system. We cannot pay public service officers. We cannot continue to fund the military. What’s wrong with ciphering millions of dollars from Enron or Government Contracts or extremely high insurance premiums? Well eventually it will destroy America . When the NYFD stormed the World Trade Center were they concerned about the welfare of America ? Certainly! The people using politics to endanger… Read more »

Anonymous
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Join in this debate. Conservatives are taking over: Should Americans have equal access to health care? Good or Bad?. – What do you think?

rxvette
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I always find it interesting that opponents to health care reform argue that it will be the “death to all of us” or “it will restrict our choices” or “medical decisions will be made by bureaucrats”. It is the current unregulated capitalistic private insurance companies who are actually fulfilling their worst nightmare right now. “Death to us all” – private insurance companies are literally killing patients right now by denying lifesaving care like in the case of Cigna’s denial of Natalie Sarkisyan’s care. “It will restrict our choices” which is exactly what our private insurers are doing. I have private… Read more »

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hugh b

Again, please tell me what the govt has discovered/invented by way of innovative health care solutions in the last 30 years? It seems to me that many of you are just anti-capitalist and would be content to see the govt do for pharma and health ins what they have done for Detroit. As to the education system- is that a joke? Are there people outside of the NEA who think our public school system has been doing an acceptable job? Teachers of course are more likely to send their kids to private school than the general population is. I wonder… Read more »

MD as HELL
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MD as HELL

That last post should say “MD as HELL”

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This thread started with someone who freely chose to travel to one of the most expensive cities on the planet instead of buying health insurance. He has that freedom of choice…for now. But don’t tell me you cannot afford health insurance. It was a matter of personal priorities. This is what makes America great. The only sustainable program for healthcare for those who cannot afford it is an old concept. It is called charity. Charity was never extended to those whom the givers perceived as making bad choices. It was always for those who were perceived as unlucky and humble… Read more »

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rbar

Hugh B, the answer is: very many. And a lot of research is done with public money, e.g. from the NINDS etc.
Are you aware that the US pharma companies spend more on PR than on R&D? And did you ever hear of “me too drugs”? I seriously suggest you start reading about these things.

Hugh B
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Hugh B

Did someone say that our education is thanks to the dept of education?
Did someone hold up the Pentagon as an example of efficiency?
As to the PO, well you never hear of an employee going “FedEx”.
Once the nation’s healthcare is in the hands of the govt. it will never return to the private sector.
How many new therapies and drugs to the nationalized systems invent/discover?

Peter
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“Are you not aware of the graduation rate in Detroit” From Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080605/SCHOOLS/806050356 “While this report uses old data and a flawed formula, the fact is any student dropping out is one too many,” Flanagan said Wednesday.” The report, called Diplomas Count 2008, projects that 1.23 million students won’t graduate this year, and that the lowest graduation rates are among African-American, Hispanic and Native American students. The analysis showed wide disparities between graduation rates reported by states and estimates from the Maryland-based nonprofit research center. That’s one reason the U.S. Department of Education proposed rules requiring states to calculate… Read more »

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Nate

surfer78, lol you do realize half those educated in Liberal school districts are illiterate don’t you? Are you not aware of the graduation rate in Detroit, Cleveland, DC, etc…. “Healthcare is an essential service for any human-being and so it can not be entirely left with for-profit insurance companies.” please, this is about a weak of an argument as you can come up with. Food is essential, as is housing what are you suggesting for government overtake of them? insurance is hardly alone in it’s management of healthcare, it’s highly regulated. keybrd take a few steps back and look up… Read more »

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There are millions of non-medical healthcare folks in the industry…in health insurance, third party admin, sales agents/brokers, claim processing, claims transmission, consulting, application systems, etc besides lawyers. By keeping all these people in any system, cost can not be contained. Thats why, public plan is the only way to go. If someone wants private plans, let them have such plans. Someone in the blog talks about just 0.5% profit for health insurance companies. Two questions: 1) How much they spend on marketing (unlimited tv commercials, etc) as well as for lobbying? 2) With the level of inefficiencies, had they been… Read more »

Peter
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“Secondly, why are so many people enthusiastic to turn over such a vital and large part of the economy to government control” Seems like we were eager to turn all of the (vital and large) economy over to private unregulated financial institutions – where did that get us. “We need only look to the Pentagon,” Do you feel protected? How much would you pay for safety? “the Post Office” Great service and great prices. They loose money because they rely on postage for revenue, not tax dollars. “the Dept of Education” The literacy of western nations was built on departments… Read more »

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Actuary

In 2006, the nation’s six biggest private health insurers collectively earned almost $11 billion in profits.
Total healthcare spending in 2007 was $2.4 Trillion – so if we get rid of insurer profits, we drop spending by .5%, all the way to $2.389 Trillion.
Then when the health care cost trends continue to rise by 8-10%/year, the question will be – Now what?
Actually, health insurance companies pay billions in premium tax (1-3% of GAAP revenue), so that $$$ will dry up if we go the “Medicare-for-all” route.

Healthcare Guru
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Tye,
I am so good to read your views. That is what we have been saying. I infact did a preliminary idea presentation at http://blogs.biproinc.com/healthcare/?p=485.
There are many other artciels….but this one talks about creating a tiered structure where the basic health is a guarantee. We could open lots of community clinics.
I also think it is a big national security issue. What is going on today is less about universal healthcare….
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ravi
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surfer78
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surfer78

Public Plan must be a part the healthcare reform, at least for basic services just like public education(k-12). Imagine a scenario without this k-12 public education, probably half the population may be illiterates today.
Healthcare is an essential service for any human-being and so it can not be entirely left with for-profit insurance companies.
Sure, health insurance companies will be shouting at the cost and inefficiencies of any public plan. But something is certainly much better than nothing. No one should be expecting a ‘perfect’ solution given the current crisis.