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The Mormon Church has forfeited its right to not pay taxes

I don’t often use THCB for direct political protests. I don’t care what the obscure cult known as The Church of Jesus and the Latter Day Saints does in the privacy of its own congregation, even though it (like many other churches) discriminates against all types of people and actively excommunicates homosexuals.

I don’t even care that a group that left the east coast because of the discrimination it faced from people and groups there (including the killing of its founder by an angry mob) has somehow become a bastion of its own bigotry. I don’t even care that many in the Mormon church hypocritically wink at the concept of "non-traditional marriages" so long as they contain one man and many women. And I guess that I don’t care that a group of any kind decides to spend $20 million and organize to influence election results, even if their stance is riddled with bigotry and hatred coded with terms about "defending marriage."

But I do care that as a taxpayer I’m forced to subsidize that activity. The Mormon Church pays no taxes, which means that the rest of us pay more and part of the deal they’ve agreed to is that they are a church and not a political organization.

Well, there’s an easy way to try to do something about it. This is an IRS form pre-completed that you can download, complete and email to the IRS asking that they review and change the Mormon church’s tax-exempt status after its appalling behavior over Proposition 8.

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I’m impressed, I must say. Rarely ddo I come across a blog that’s
equally educative and engaging, aand let
me tell you, you’ve hit the nail on the head.
The issue is something not enough men and women are speaking
intelligently about. I am very happy I ccame across this during my search for something regarding this.

TG
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TG

In the aftermath of the recent election, we may find ourselves oddly on the defensive regarding our support for the Yes on Proposition 8 cause. Our young people have been especially subject to mean-spirited comments by high school friends and teachers. We have nothing to be ashamed of. We did nothing wrong. In fact, we did everything that a civic-minded American can and should do. I have put together a few facts that help me to appreciate our position better. For example: 1. Mormons make up less than 2 percent of the population of California. There are approximately 800,000 LDS… Read more »

David
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David

Where does this fight for “freedom” end? Where is the next line drawn after homosexuals can marry? Are you naive enough to think that is the end? An objective analysis of the long trend in laws relating to issues of morality suggests this is by no mean the end. Soon after this “triumph” will arise the push for adults to legally marry minors, polygamy, and many will push for legalization of prostitution. What we now consider obviously morally wrong can be made to look acceptable given enough exposure. Are there any real moral absolutes? You can call it “enlightenment” or… Read more »

chemuir
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chemuir

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t the advent of the Government’s Faith-Based Initiatives mean that some of our tax money does get funneled to churches? Isn’t this the complaint of those upset that evangelical groups get contracts to teach AIDS awareness in Africa while refusing to give people condoms, resulting in an untold number of casualties? Perhaps it is better to focus our efforts on scrutinizing these programs instead of going after the tax exemption of churches. Because, while I may not be cut out for a lifetime of boring underwear, I’m not about to stand in the way… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

“@Peter: “Seems god’s not doing so well…”
Actually, I’d say God’s doing fine. We as people, on the other hand…”
Where can I get a job like god’s, good happens it because of me, bad happens it’s because of you. You spoke about god’s plan, that assumes he’s in control and directing what’s happening – like in Darfur and the Congo. What would the plan there be?

F.A.S.
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” .. Looking at the tone of F.A.S.’s comments, it seems he’d be right at home in a get-out-the-hate rally organized by the KKK, Hitler or Sean Hannity ..” Ah, yes .. after spitting on black church members, bring out Adolph. What genius — how inspired. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum ” .. Reductio ad Hitlerum, also argumentum ad Hitlerum, or reductio (or argumentum) ad Nazium – dog Latin for “reduction (or argument) to Adolf Hitler (or the Nazis)” – is a modern informal fallacy in logic. The name is a pun on reductio ad absurdum. It is a variety of both questionable cause… Read more »

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@m
Here’s the link: http://lesbianlife.about.com/cs/wedding/a/unionvmarriage.htm. It’s by no means comprehensive, but it should put to rest the notion that this fight is simply about naming rights, and who gets to use which words.

Alex Bowles
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Alex Bowles

Chris P, Right on. Looking at the tone of F.A.S.’s comments, it seems he’d be right at home in a get-out-the-hate rally organized by the KKK, Hitler or Sean Hannity. It has that same hostile, aggressive, baiting stridancy that would probably make Jesus himself cringe. If that’s indicative of the the tone inside Mormon Temples these days, count me out. And given how much of that tone has surfaced in the wake of this decision, I think plenty of people (specifically, more than enough to reverse the decision at the polling booth) have realized that this is really an issue… Read more »

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@Peter: “Seems god’s not doing so well…” Actually, I’d say God’s doing fine. We as people, on the other hand… @Alex: Your link didn’t come through. I’d like to read it, though, so if you have time, please post it. @Chris: “that Mormons do not practice the Golden Rule says a lot about their faith” I’m not sure you say that in the context of Prop 8. Of course, nobody wants to be told what they’re doing is wrong, Mormons or non-Mormons alike. We’re voting according to our beliefs, a right we vigorously defend for ourselves and others. Again, I… Read more »

Chris P
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Chris P

I want Mormon children to marry the person that they love.
When Mormon parents think this is a bad idea, I will point to the Capulet and Montague families to see if they want that kind of ending.
Tax exemption is not the way to fight this. Reminding people that Mormons do not practice the Golden Rule says a lot about their faith.

Peter
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Peter

“since gay civil unions are allowed”
Not in Florida with passage of Amendment 2. David, there are a lot of issues, we’re just devoting this one part of the Healthcare Blog to gay marriage. We’ll get back to smoking at some point and other health topics. But you are right, there is more noise about this issue than most others on this blog. Maybe we should make gays responsible for preventing universal healthcare, that way we could get the Morman Church (and black churches) fired up about the issue too.

David MD
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David MD

While this is an important issue and it is being addressed with Web 2.0 technology, http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/14/gay-rights-activists-use-web-to-organize-global-rally/ , I only wish this much attention would be dedicated to fighting the tobacco lobby by mimicing legislation passed by Mayor Mike Bloomberg in New York City. He has reduced the teen smoking rate to 8.5% from 20 to 23% nationwide and helped 200,000 adults to quit smoking. This was done by raising taxes so that a pack costs about $10, enforcing the law prohibiting minors from purchasing cigarettes, aggressive anti-smoking ads, free nicotine replacement patches. According to Dr. Leonard S. Miller of UC… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

“…I believe that the family is central to God’s plan for our happiness. That children are entitled to being raised by a mother and a father, who have made a marriage commitment to each other (and, by extension, their kids). And because I believe that homosexuality attempts to mimic the divinely-sanctioned institution of marriage but instead offers only a hollow imitation of divinity that spiritually harms its adherents spiritually.” Stats for 2005: Number of marriages: 2,230,000 Marriage rate: 7.5 per 1,000 total population Divorce rate: 3.6 per 1,000 population (46 reporting States and D.C.) Seems god’s not doing so well… Read more »

F.A.S.
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HYPOCRITICAL
“@F.A.S.: What’s your deal with the black people?”
Hey, pal — there’s no “deal.” Only hypocrisy — liberal Democrats attacking the Mormon church.
(Which, BTW, was NOT DIRECTLY involved. As if facts mattered — it was MORMONS.)
Yet — those “lib-burr-als” are NEVER televised, shouting at BLACK church members.
Why? Is it because black church members are NOT afraid to push back spittle-spewing miscreants?

Alex Bowles
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Alex Bowles

m, All other points in your argument aside, when it comes to one of you basic premises – that civil unions and marriage are equal in everything but name – you are simply incorrect. Please see here for details. As an aside, I never compared the plight of homosexuals to that of slaves. Slaves, quite obviously, had no rights at all. Gay people have many rights – but not as many as straight people. And that’s because, like the 3/5th rule before it, our current legal arrangement diminishes the full human value of gay people. It does so by thwarting… Read more »