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HEALTH PLANS: Guess who said this?

"Health insurers are committed to improving health care choices for small businesses and bringing costs under control for all Americans,"

A woman who’ll say anything in absolute opposition to the facts, so long as it makes her patrons look better. Don’t you think she’d make a good next attorney-general?

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John Fembup
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John Fembup

“John, reducing consumption of gas does reduce the cost of gas . . .” Peter, you continue to respond as though I’ve been talking about total expenditures for BUYING gas. I have not been talking about expenditures for BUYING gas, but about the cost of PRODUCING gas. Remember, you brought up the idea that auto manufacturers should control the cost of gasoline. The cost of gasoline is not relevant except to observe that (1) auto manufacturers cannot control the cost of gasoline and, similarly, (2) insurance companies cannot control the cost of delivering health care. This is not difficult stuff.… Read more »

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John, reducing consumption of gas does reduce the cost of gas and reduce global warming. It either saves people from filling up as much or it reduces consumption which “should”, cartels aside, reduce prices in the long haul. Consumption, price, cost, all part of the same equation. But I don’t believe low prices for gasoline are a good thing. This country should have instituted a global warming gas tax long ago. Even an Iraq War tax. Then use those funds to promote better technology and a shifting from inefficient processes. Exxon does not allocate system wide policy with its profits,… Read more »

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“they don’t want to be part of any solution” That’s you talking, Peter. I never said they don’t WANT to reduce the cost of gasoline. My point is that they can’t. They are unable to. They don’t have the expertise. They don’t control any of the factors of exploration, drilling, extraction, transportation, refinement, and distribution of petroleum products. If you disagree, please explain how you think a car company can reduce the cost of gasoline. And, BTW, you misrepresent what I said in a second way. Your post above refers to “reducing fuel comsumption” but I never mentioned fuel consumption,… Read more »

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Peter

John, I actually think that business has an obligation to participate in solving problems. Car companies are part of the problem for global warming as are health insurers part of the problem in health costs. The fact that I think health insurers are excess baggage in the system does not diminish my belief they need to do something except add overhead. But since they don’t want to be part of any solution then their part in the system is superflurous and therefore they are not needed.

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John Fembup

“According to John Fembup health insurers have no more business trying to reduce system costs as do car builders have any incentive in reducing fuel comsumption.”
A perfectly reasonable point of view, and BTW thanks for agreeing with me.
(If you feel that insurers do have some important role in reducing system costs, you wouldn’t be advocating their demise, would you?)

c3
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c3

The faster we get rid of insurers, the faster we’ll be closer to controlling costs.

And its fee for service for everyone!!

Stella Baskomb
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Stella Baskomb

“the faster we’ll be closer to controlling costs.”
“faster we’ll be closer”?? Nice phrase.
May I infer that you include yourself in “we” but exclude anyone who disagrees with you? Good strategy. See, that way you always get a favorable vote.
But seriously, it’s such a shame that you are not dictator. Then you could also control those energy, food, housing, college tuition, and transportation costs, too. And if only you were dictator for life, you could control them for a lifetime. Quel dommage.

Peter
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Peter

According to John Fembup health insurers have no more business trying to reduce system costs as do car builders have any incentive in reducing fuel comsumption. The faster we get rid of insurers, the faster we’ll be closer to controlling costs.

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OK, so I have a question. > “Failure to take any action at all would be the most > expensive course of action for the entire care > system — including small businesses — due to the > cost shifting that is associated with uncompensated > care for the uninsured,” [Ignagni] told the > legislators. How does cost-shifting make anything more expensive? I do not see how it changes the total bill. It seems to me that cost-shifting might even save money because we don’t have to market plans to the uninsured, or permit insurers to earn a margin on… Read more »

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MG

This is like a Mad Libs press release “Health insurers are committed to improving (insert health policy issue) for (insert healthcare entity) and bringing (insert health policy issue) control for all (insert demographic group).”