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POLICY/POLITICS: It’s all the illegal Austrian socialist’s fault

It’s all quite amusing. You wouldn’t know it, but there are no problems with health care in California, and what Arnie did yesterday was a display of showing his true feelings—a combination of handouts to illegal aliens and an introduction of European socialism.

At least that’s what you’d think if your only source was reading the Los Angeles Times reader comments about the proposal. Methinks that the FreeRepublic or Michelle Malkin crowd was sent over there….

(BTW I’ll be writing more about the Arnie plan at Spot-on tomorrow, but I wrote most of what I think the result will be there last week)

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Dear Peter, Two or two million wrongs do not offset two or two million other wrongs, or make anything right. Any means of acquiring wealth other than through one’s own industry – i.e. by confiscating another’s property – is plunder. Plunder is still plunder whether accomplished by legislation or a gun, and regardless of whether it is done on behalf of the rich or the poor. Forcing people to contract with medical insurance companies, HMOs or similar perversions of nature not only subsidizes the poor; it subsidizes rich insurance/HMO/ medical corporate interests. Everyone in the middle gets squeezed by dysfunctional… Read more »

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“Furthermore, it subsidises the poor” Well John, furthermore government subsidises the rich through corporate subsidies. Tax scams such as Single Sales Factor, Certified Capital Companies, Property Tax Abatements, Direct Relocation Subsidies, Tax Increment Financing and Enterprise Zone Rebates and Credits are some of the schemes rich and successful corporations use to get tax payers to subsidise profit. $300 million for Dell in North Caroilna, 282 property tax exemptions given to Exxon over 10 years in Louisiana for $93 million (just part of a $2.5 BILLION taken from local schools and governments there), billions in Ohio, Illinois, South Carolina. The list… Read more »

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Sorry. I stubbed my toe, and I have to take back much of the last paragraph (above). Arnold’s plan for universal health care IS socialism. It may draw everyone into the system as consumers, but that is not all it does. It also interferes with producers, and businesses with 10 or more employees. They must pay to support the system. So must doctors and hospitals. Furthermore, it subsidises the poor, including illegal aliens – and the subsidy money must come from taxes. Thus, it is clearly a wealth-redistribution scheme which also depends on government (read common) support and control. That’s… Read more »

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Serious problems exist in the California health care system. However, Arnie’s proposed cure is, in my view, worse than the illness. One of the main problems with the health care system is that it is broken at the service level. Doctors are over-worked, and doctor and hospital staffs are under-manned. There is a national shortage of qualified nurses and health care technicians, and large numbers of the latter are getting older and leaving. The stop-gap has been to import poorly trained nursing personnel from overseas. The overall result has been deprecated patient care in a system that cares more for… Read more »

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Stuart, releasing the “power” of an unregulated insurance industry sure puts profits in the hands of insurers, it does not provide affordable healthcare or access to healthcare. Insurance companies are a useless third wheel in this system. They add nothing but paperwork and give people false hope that when you’re sick you won’t go broke. Look what happened when Reagan de-regulated the savings and loan industry, or California de-regulated electrical producers. These industry groups will conspire to cut themselves the best deal. How far do you trust your insurance carrier?

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Thoughtful readers may wish to consider the Wall Street Journal’s take on Terminatorcare:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110009503

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Matt, I think that these provider/insurance based plans are a last ditch effort to keep what they have without really changing. I agree with the White/Christian/Republican guy mentality is really holding this country back. The argumant seems to be that the system sucks because not enough patients buy health insurance. If only we could force them to pay our exorbitant prices (even with gov. subsidies) the system would correct itself. I heard a comment about the CA proposal that a family of four making about 30K/year will be required to pay $2000 in premiums. Probably less than what they would… Read more »