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POLICY: NY Times opinion on Medicaid

Shorter NY Times opinion on Florida Medicaid: It’s so screwed up that screwing it over more can’t make it any worse, and really Florida Republicans are deserving of our trust, as they’ve proved their fairness to their poorer and darker-skinned citizens so often in their history (as in the 2000 election).

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Ron Greiner
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Ron Greiner

Matthew I live in Florida but I work in Michigan. I have a meeting on Thursday with the head cheese of 7-Eleven, who I enrolled the first year in ’97, and one of the 2 guys running for U.S Senate up here.
I will keep you posted, not that you care.

Ron Greiner
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Ron Greiner

You are right Gadfly. There is not a chance for Socialized Medicine. Now if Matthew would quit dreaming of turning Americans into Socialists we would all feel better.
Matthew lets all Liberals have as much space as they need. I am an HSA supporter so he says I only get 10 lines. His posts talks about the Florida election but of course I can’t discuss politics.
Blue Cross put a huge article in Detroit on HSAs today.

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//other luxury cars balk at paying a $15 dollar co-pay for services.// Part of what sold social security was the idea that everyone would get it – means testing was just taken out of the equation. The only issue is that there needs to be more people paying in than taking out. (I apologize for my amateur way of of describing this. I’m not an economist – but think of me as a sample of a non-expert point of view.) My sense is that despite all the demagoguery against socialism, this society is fundamentally socialist. People will vote for benefits… Read more »

Tom Leith
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Tom Leith

theorajones writes: > We need to agree that the only thing that > matters in a health care system, in terms > of both cost and quality, is how it works > when dealing with sick people. > The litmus test simply cannot continue to be > how well the system that’s supposed to take > care of the sick works for the healthy. We cannot agree on what it means to “be sick” or on what “care” is. And the 80% will not stop questioning what is spent on the 20% so long as people improperly value risk, and… Read more »

Jim Glinn
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While I like the intent of the above comments (healthcare as more of a social program rather than a capitalistic program as well as the provide for the sick and not the healthy), I would challenge that the statement:”…contain the costs and provide access to high-quality medically necessary care for sick people,” is really hard to accomplish. First of all, what is “high-quality medically necessary care for sick people” particularly in a “cost contained environment.” I have polled hundreds of healthcare workers (physicians, therapists, nurses) about “quality” care and I have not met one yet that noted they were not… Read more »

gadfly
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gadfly

I think it was worth saying twice. 🙂

theorajones
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theorajones

Ack! Double post! Sorry!

theorajones
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theorajones

I think it’s time for health care wonks to propose a new policy test for every healthcare plan. When evaluating a reform plan the litmus question, and the ONLY question, should be, “how does this plan work to contain the costs and provide access to high-quality medically necessary care for sick people.” Today, people propose all sorts of health care plans and defend them by saying that they work well for most people. And, fundamentally, they’re right. The Florida plan will work really well for lots of moms and kids. But what this overlooks, of course, is that rubbing chicken… Read more »

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theorajones

I think it’s time for health care wonks to propose a new policy test for every healthcare plan. When evaluating a reform plan the litmus question, and the ONLY question, should be, “how does this plan work to contain the costs and provide access to high-quality medically necessary care for sick people.” Today, people propose all sorts of health care plans and defend them by saying that they work well for most people. And, fundamentally, they’re right. The Florida plan will work really well for lots of moms and kids. But what this overlooks, of course, is that rubbing chicken… Read more »

Matthew Holt
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Ron: Remember–brevity good. Relevancy-better. This post was about Medicaid–not abortion, metrosexuals, union insurance or Michigan. not that I understand how you can be in Michigan and Floida at the same time.
Sign into the blog I gave you and put it all there…

Ron Greiner
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Ron Greiner

Here in Detroit everybody is screaming about union benefits for workers. Union employees now will find their costs jump to $60 a month for family health insurance. Editorials are saying Hillary beat Gov. Granholm (D-MI) in asking President Bush to have taxpayers pay for union employees’ insurance. Howard Dean was demanding Socialized Medicine too. Democrats will never learn, they have no ideas.
http://www.autoindustry.co.uk/news/industry_news/24-10-05_13

Ron Greiner
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Ron Greiner

My neighbor in Florida is a Brit and she is as big a Liberal as you Matthew. Thank goodness she can’t vote. Most American’s don’t like Partial Birth Abortion like Senator Stabenow (D-MI) voted for. She is funded by EMILY’S List and Blue Cross of MI CEO, Dan the Man from Michigan. What a fruitcake.
Flash from England (Englandonions):
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1598631,00.html