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  1. SteveH you implied that US Liver transplants are better preformed someplace besides the US. I know that Omaha is better than London, Paris or Rome. I’m just asking what city is better than Omaha?
    If the rest of the world is so much better than American health care how come we get a majority, not even close, of Nobel Prizes in medicine?
    As soon as Arifat checked into a Paris hopital I knew he was a dead man.

  2. Don’t know what cherry-picking means, do you Ron?
    “18 of the last 25 winners of the Nobel Prize in medicine either are U.S. citizens or worked here.” And that is relevant to what?

  3. Robert Redford’s son went to Omaha for his liver transplant. They have done over 2,000 transplants. Are saying that Redford’s son should have went to London or Paris for his liver transplant – SteveH?

  4. SteveH,
    The article says, “18 of the last 25 winners of the Nobel Prize in medicine either are U.S. citizens or worked here.”
    Never die Rick? Didn’t Senator John Kerry have prostate cancer right before the election? You present a very scary thought. Maybe Kerry will run for President for the next hundred years until he finally wins. Republicans couldn’t get that lucky.

  5. SteveH,
    The article says, “18 of the last 25 winners of the Nobel Prize in medicine either are U.S. citizens or worked here.”
    Never die Rick? Didn’t Senator John Kerry have prostate cancer right before the election? You present a very scary thought. Maybe Kerry will run for President for the next hundred years until he finally wins. Republicans couldn’t get that lucky.

  6. I personally want to be in Ron’s 80 percent of U.S. men with prostate cancer that apparently never die. Hahahahaha!

  7. Ron, try to get facts from somewhere other than a Cato op-ed. I don’t even think the guy has his stats straight, but for other comparisons of cancer survival rates done by reputable researchers try “How Does The Quality Of Care Compare In Five Countries?” “The first five indicators are five-year relative survival rates for various types of cancer… On these indicators, the range in performance was usually small. On most survival rates, the countries arewithin 10 percent of each other.” On the other hand if you need a liver or kidney transplant, don’t get it done in the USA. “Two related indicators of the outcomes of health care are the survival rate following a kidney or liver transplant.12 The survival rates for both were relatively low in the United States.” Hussey et al. Health Affairs.2004; 23: 89-99.
    Am I cherry-picking data? Darn right I am, but I’m honest about it, Cato and Ron aren’t.

  8. If this guy has prostate cancer he is lucky he wasn’t sent to England. In the U.S. less than 20% of men die with prostate cancer and in England 57% die. Prostate cancer and Nationalized Medicine or Socialized Medicine is a deadly mix. In France 50% of men with prostate cancer die. Canadian prostate cancer deaths are higher than the U.S. rates as well.
    http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=61478

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