This is one of the more unusual videos I’ve done as a THCB Spotlight. I’ve been advising Allison Martin at UDoTest for a while. Meanwhile, I met Rahul Dubey when he was running innovation at AHIP. Then I saw his name all over Twitter and everywhere else because he had let a large number of protesters into his house as the police violently broke up a BLM protest earlier this month. What I didn’t know was how well they knew each other, but I got them together late last week and it made for a fascinating conversation about society, health care, and the future. —Matthew Holt