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Owen Tripp, Included Health, talks AI

“So far AI in health care is being used to drive existing profits on workflows and increase revenue per event that patients in the end have to pay for. That’s not a win for anyone long term!” Included Health’s CEO Owen Tripp dives into the present and future use of AI, LLMs, patient self-triage and self treatment and all that. Another interesting conversation on where patient facing AI will end up — Matthew Holt

BTW here’s my Conversation with Ami Parekh & Ankoor Shah

Here’s Owen Tripp discussing Included Health.

Here’s Owen’s piece on AI, What’s in your chatbot?

Healthcare AI: What’s in your chatbot?

By OWEN TRIPP

So much of the early energy around generative AI in healthcare has been geared toward speed and efficiency: freeing doctors from admin tasks, automating patient intake, streamlining paperwork-heavy pain points. This is all necessary and helpful, but much of it boils down to established players optimizing the existing system to suit their own needs. As consumers flock to AI for healthcare, their questions and needs highlight the limits of off-the-shelf bots — and the pent-up demand for no judgment, all-in-one, personalized help.

Transforming healthcare so that it actually works for patients and consumers — ahem, people — requires more than incumbent-led efficiency. Generative AI will be game-changing, no doubt, but only when it’s embedded and embraced as a trusted guide that steers people toward high-quality care and empowers them to make better decisions.

Upgrading Dr. Google

From my vantage point, virtual agents and assistants are the most important frontier in healthcare AI right now — and in people-centered healthcare, period. Tens of millions of people (especially younger generations) are already leaning into AI for help with health and wellness, testing the waters of off-the-shelf apps and tools like ChatGPT.

You see, people realize that AI isn’t just for polishing emails and vacation itineraries. One-fifth of adults consult AI chatbots with health questions at least once a month (and given AI’s unprecedented adoption curve, we can assume that number is rising by the day). For most, AI serves as a souped-up, user-friendly alternative to search engines. It offers people a more engaging way to research symptoms, explore potential treatments, and determine if they actually need to see a doctor or head to urgent care.

But people are going a lot deeper with chatbots than they ever did with Dr. Google or WebMD. Beyond the usual self-triage, the numbers tell us that up to 40% of ChatGPT users have consulted AI after a doctor’s appointment. They were looking to verify and validate what they’d heard. Even more surprising, after conferring with ChatGPT, a similar percentage then re-engaged with their doctor — to request referrals or tests, changes to medications, or schedule a follow-up.

These trends highlight AI’s enormous potential as an engagement tool, and they also suggest that people are defaulting to AI because the healthcare system is (still) too difficult and frustrating to navigate. Why are people asking ChatGPT how to manage symptoms? Because accessing primary and preventive care is a challenge. Why are they second-guessing advice and prescriptions? Sadly, they don’t fully trust their doctor, are embarrassed to speak up, or don’t have enough time to talk through their questions and concerns during appointments.

Chatbots have all the time in the world, and they’re responsive, supportive, knowledgeable, and nonjudgmental. This is the essence of the healthcare experience people want, need, and deserve, but that experience can’t be built with chatbots alone. AI has a critical role to play, to be sure, but to fulfill its potential it has to evolve well beyond off-the-shelf chatbot competence.

Chatbots 2.0

When it comes to their healthcare, the people currently flocking to mass-market apps like ChatGPT will inevitably realize diminishing returns. Though the current experience feels personal, the advice and information is ultimately very generic, built on the same foundation of publicly available data, medical journals, websites, and countless other sources. Even the purpose-built healthcare chatbots in the market today are overwhelmingly relying on public data and outsourced AI models.

Generic responses and transactional experiences have inherent shortcomings. As we’ve seen with other health-tech advances, including 1.0 telehealth and navigation platforms, impersonal, one-off services driven primarily by in-the-moment-need, efficiency, or convenience don’t equate to long-term value.

For chatbots to avoid the 1.0 trap, they need to do more than put the world’s medical knowledge at our fingertips.

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Owen Tripp, Included Health

Owen Tripp is CEO of Included Health. It started way back in the 2010s as a second opinion service but now has added telehealth, continuous primary care, behavioral health and guidance for its populations. He’s taken to calling what they do all in one personalized healthcare. Underlying all this is a data integration and analytics platform that’s now being used by some of the biggest employers including Walmart, Comcast, CALPers and more. Essentially Included Health is building the new multi-specialty medical group. Owen & I really got into the details and had a great conversation about how we develop a “3rd way” between the payers and providers–Matthew Holt

This One Weird Trick Can Fix U.S. Healthcare

By OWEN TRIPP

Creating a healthcare experience that builds trust and delivers value to people and purchasers isn’t a quick fix, but it’s the only way to reverse the downward spiral of high costs and poor outcomes

Entrepreneurs like to say the U.S. healthcare system is “broken,” usually right before they explain how they intend to fix it. I have a slightly different diagnosis.

The U.S. healthcare system is the gold standard. Our institutions and enterprises, ranging from 200-year-old academic medical centers to digital health startups, are the clear world leaders in clinical expertise, research, innovation, and technology. Capabilities-wise, the system is far from broken.

What’s broken is trust in the system, because of the glaring gap between what the system is capable of and what it actually delivers. Every day across the country, people drive past world-class hospitals, but then have to wait months for a primary care appointment. They deduct hundreds for healthcare from each paycheck, only to be told at the pharmacy that their prescription isn’t covered. While waiting for a state-of-the-art scan, they’re handed a clipboard and asked to recap their medical history.

This whipsaw experience isn’t due to incompetence or poor infrastructure. It’s the product of the dysfunction between the two biggest players in healthcare: providers and insurers, two entities that have optimized the hell out of their respective businesses, in opposition to one another, and inadvertently at the expense of people.

Historically, hospitals and health systems — including those 200-year-old AMCs — have dedicated themselves fully to improving and saving lives. I’m not saying they’ve lost sight of this, but until recently, margin took a back seat to mission. With industry consolidation and the persistence of the fee-for-service model, however, providers’ hands have been forced to maximize volume of care at the highest possible unit cost, which in turn has become a main driver of the out-of-control cost trend at large.

This push from providers has prompted an equal-and-opposite reaction from insurers. Though the industry has been villainized (rightly, in some cases) for a heavy-handed approach to utilization management and prior authorization, insurers are merely doing what their primary customers — private employers — have hired them to do: manage cost. Insurers have gotten very good at it, not just by limiting care, but also through product innovation that has created more tiers and cost-sharing options for plan sponsors.

Meanwhile, healthcare consumers (people!) have been sidelined amid this tug-of-war. Doctors and hospitals say they’re patient-centered, and insurers say they’re member-centric — but the jargon is a dead giveaway. Each side is focused on their half of the pie, and neither is accountable for the whole person: the person receiving care and paying for care, not to mention navigating everything in between.

It should come as no surprise that trust is falling. Only 56% of Americans trust their health insurer to act in their best interest. Even trust in doctors — the good guys — has plummeted. In a startling reversal from just four years ago, a whopping 76% of people believe hospitals care more about revenue than patient care.

Loss of Trust in Healthcare Providers

Hospitals in the U.S.
are mostly focused on…
⏺  Caring for patients⏺  Making money


Source: Jarrard/Chartis (2025)

This trust deficit is the root cause of so many healthcare problems. It’s the reason people disengage, delay and skip care, and end up in the ER or OR for preventable issues. When a good chunk of the population falls into this cycle, as they have, you end up with the status quo: unrelenting costs and deteriorating outcomes that is dragging down households, businesses, and the industry itself.

There’s no quick fix. Despite what my fellow entrepreneurs might say, no one point solution or technology (no, not even AI) can rebuild trust. The only way to reverse the downward spiral is by serving up a modern experience that is genuinely designed around people’s needs.

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WTF Health: Included Health’s CEO Owen Tripp on Grand Rounds, Doctor-on-Demand Merger & New Name

By JESSICA DaMASSA, WTF Health

A sign of effective ‘merging-and-acquiring’ among innovative healthcare companies? How about a new brand-name? The company known as “Grand Rounds Health and Doctor on Demand,” which merged in March 2021 and quickly acquired LGBTQ+ virtual care company, Included Health, announced that the company would be moving forward as Included Health from here on out. We get into the strategy behind that name-change – and, more importantly, how the integration of the three companies is going – from CEO Owen Tripp.

This quick update covers how the navigation-plus-virtual-care co is prioritizing integration at-scale for millions of members – unlike other growing healthcare companies who Owen says have, “acquired companies, but haven’t put them together.” From member experience, clinician experience, and the business model backing all of this, we get a state-of-play on Included Health, including Owen’s take on the rising popularity of at-risk models among competitors Accolade Health and Transcarent, the legacy relationship the company has with Walmart, and how small/mid-sized employers are increasing area of focus for growth.