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Adventures in health care billing. My $51.96 zit co-insurance

By MATTHEW HOLT

I know my many fans love me delving into the world of why we get seemingly incorrect trivial bills in health care, and what they all mean. The long telenovella of the $39.94 bill from Labcorp is as yet stalled with One Medical apparently resubmitting the original claim with the new preventative codes on it. But even though I am continuing and expanding my role as a difficult patient this year, there are still some blasts from the past that won’t quite leave.

This particular one concerns some rather unpleasant dermatology issues. For many years I had an nasty small sore/lesion on my leg that never quite healed. Then I started getting a few more that started as zits and never quite left. My wise PCP Andrew Diamond at One Medical told me to use some antibiotic wash and referred me to a dermatologist. Unfortunately the one I was referred to was out of network for the Blue Shield HMO I was in, but one request back to One Medical and I was both sent to a dermatologist in my network and got a pre-auth in the mail from Blue Shield to go see him!

Dr Cristian Gonzalez took a quick look at my leg, decided what the problem was, and  proceeded to inject, freeze and attack my various lesions. He then prescribed a cheap topical  steroid for me to use, and basically after 4 visits over the summer and Fall, my legs went back to resembling a baby’s bottom–well more or less. 

For each specialty visit Blue Shield had a co-pay of $85 per visit, which I handed over using my HSA card. One time the front desk said I had a balance, but when I asked them what it was for they told me it was a mistake. Until this week.

Some 4 months after my last visit I got a bill in the mail for $51.96

Given that I had made a co-pay of $85 each time, this seemed a little odd. So I took a look at my Blue Shield EOBs. (BTW they are back online, you may recall they vanished when Blue Shield cancelled and then changed my plan but the Internet never forgets….)

There a curious anomaly began to play out. Each visit generated three identical claims and three more or less identical EOBs.

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When is Preventative Care not Preventative? Let’s get Labcorp to join in! (Part 2) (with UPDATE)

By MATTHEW HOLT

To join in the fun I am having with Blue Shield of California & Brown & Toland Physicians IPA being unable to tell me why I have a $34.94 bill for lab work (see image) that should either be covered as preventable under the ACA, or have co-pay of $50 (see image of the BS of CA screenshot for the $50), I called Labcorp.

After 6 minutes I got a very confused person. BTW there is NO way to communicate with Labcorp on the website, and if you put your invoice number into their IVR system there is NO way to get a human. The only way to do that is to hang up and start again, NOT put in your invoice number and hit 0. Then wait on hold with muzak to get a human. They then ask your DOB and phone number. The call center is in the Philippines BTW.

I explained that I wanted information on which test was not covered under the ACA. Brown and Toland/Blue Shield’s EOB says I have a $0 co-pay (see image).

The Labcorp rep told me that of the 5 tests done (with CPT code and price), 3 were not covered. The Lipid (85027 $107.10), the A1C (80061 – $81.90) Uric Acid (84550 $43.05). 2 of those 3 clearly are covered under the ACA. The Uric Acid one may not be according to my reading of the CMS site. Labcorp submitted that bill to Blue Shield. The rep consistently told me the claim was sent to Blue Cross Blue Shield of CA, which doesn’t exist.



At that point — 15 minutes in — the call dropped. I don’t know if they just hung up but they had asked for my phone number. They didn’t call me back.

But I am a pain in the ass, and I called them back. After roughly 4 mins on hold, I got another rep. She told me ALL of the CPT codes/lab tests were subject to copay. She told me that Blue Shield (NOT Brown & Toland Physicians) has bundled all of these codes and there is a co pay for all of them. Which is what the bill says.

So the only thing I can do is to send an email with the screenshot of the EOB, which is from the IPA not Blue Shield. So I did that and may get a response in 3-5 business days.

I know you are on tenterhooks. Let’s see what happens next but the complete absence of anything resembling consumer transparency or access to the relevant information makes a mockery of everything Paul Markovich says on stage.

UPDATE. Labcorp both emailed me back AND asked me to contact them on Linkedin. See what they asked for! Yes even though they have sent me a bill and I sent them the invoice number, they want every detail possible about the claim they ALREADY have!

Full email below just for giggles

Oh and when I went to DM them on Linkedin as they requested their account was not accepting DMs!

2nd UPDATE: A very nice man from the Blue Shield of California corporate office called me up. We discussed whether the care I got was preventative or not and why I was being charged the $34.94. Of course he didn’t know. He agreed with me that it was a shit show, and actually started to complain that sometime HE had been charged for preventative stuff he thought should have been free.. He didn’t have any solution other than calling Brown and Toland to cancel the charge, but I told him I didn’t want any special treatment (at least not yet!).  I told him I wanted no special favors, but I wanted the claim reprocessed and an explanation.

And there’s a part 3!

Matthew Holt is the founder and publisher of THCB

Is It Time To Charge Medicaid Members for ER Usage?

No one would deny that we’ve reached a point in public healthcare finance where tough choices have to be made about what gets covered and what doesn’t. There is, however, one fairly easy choice, and that is to reconfigure the $3 copay for Medicaid members using the emergency room.

I would propose a replacement benefit of $0 for the first visit and $20 for each subsequent one, in a given calendar year. Not every state, but any state that reaches certain thresholds for physician access or urgent care availability may switch to this policy.

Here are the arguments in favor. First, each $3 visit costs the state and federal government about $500.  There are few discretionary or semi-discretionary patient decisions that cost so little to trigger so much taxpayer spending.  (Hospitalizations have that kind of ratio, but a patient can’t check himself into a hospital the way he can visit an ER.)

Second, one must consider the historical context. The $3 copay (“$3” is a shorthand for $0 to $10 — I don’t think it is over $10 anywhere) is a vestige of the bad old days when it was very difficult to find physicians who accepted Medicaid patients. That is still the case in some locales; they would not be eligible for this waiver. The world has changed, but the copay hasn’t.

Third, ER utilization rates in the TANF population, which because of its average age is generally pretty healthy, far exceed that of the commercially insured population. This is despite the fact that TANF members in general cost much less than commercially insured people, a gap that widens still further once birth events are removed from the calculation. Clearly there is much excess utilization.

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