Matthew Holt

Senate Deal on Health Care Bill Done

As it's a work day for the Senate worth reporting here that Ben Nelson’s vote has been bought for more Medicaid spending for Nebraska and a complex formula for States to opt out of exchanges being able to fund abortions. So presuming there’s no problems in reconciliation we can expect the reform bill to be done relatively soon. Full details on what’s in the new bill on Think Progress’ The Wonk Room.

The netroots left has been complaining loudly over the last couple of days since Lieberman was bought off by dropping the public option and the Medicare buy-in. Howard Dean and Markos of Daily Kos both called for massive changes to the bill, or killing it and the debate between the “sensible left” and the “this is a sellout to insurers” has got a little silly. However, (unless Bernie Sanders pulls  fast one) none of the more left wing Senators (Sherrod Brown et al) are going to vote against the bill, so what we see now is what we get.

The real issue will be when the voting public finds out that nothing happens for 3 years.

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Henry Massingale
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To show the people of the United States that there is a plan to cover the sick and the poor, but to get Government Officials to see is a concept alone. To help cover the sick and the poor is a FASC Concept that states that to build a Health Care Forum within our Government Institution is a Peoples right to do so and this is Protect Under the Constitution as a Human and Civil Right. So in plan words if the poor and the sick could only afford to pay $5.00 to $10.00 per month this would to bring… Read more »

Henry Massingale
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3/22/2010 I had to wait for this Bill to be passed in order to show the Republican Party and GOP and FRC Action that it is the voice of the people that guides the destiny of this Country. As predicted , the first stages of the Health Care Bill was passed. Why, you ask ? It is because people wish to be seen for their in put of a view and not unite. What is lost is respect with in a concept of { Freedom Of Choice } to be a part of this system or not, with in this… Read more »

Bart
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History will be made today if the bill passes, and the history books will be unkind to Pelosi, Reid, and all of the congressmen who vote for Obama Care. They will have sold us out into socilaism by forcing us into something we, the people didn’t want and can’t afford. Obama promised “change you can belive in.” Well, we got change, you can belive that – but it’s not for the better. May God protect us from the socialist Democratic power axis.

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Jonathan B. Morgan

Here’s my thing. If we don’t “buckle up” in America we can be fined by law enforcement. The intention of the health care bill is very good. Imagine POTUS trying to do something that he didn’t think would benefit the Americans? Political Suicide. However, being forced by law to get the coverage that they insist we participate in is asinine. Who enforces that law? What are the penalties? Moreover, if I want to buy some of the $75 million of prescription drugs off the black market (which they hope doesn’t end up there…they are a business) because I do not… Read more »

Henry Massingale
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To see the true Health Care Tax forum you must stop thinking in 3-D,This multi tax forum is against a $100 Trillion Dollar system.. … To force pay into another system of failures within Health Care Insurance Groups. This economy will not balance with this concept of a tax forum against the Health Care System. The issue of how to force pay into this system of Health Care may have worked but I am still troubled over the progressive tax forum within this Bill. It covers so many items and Countries that it only forces the system to adjust itself.… Read more »

Henry Massingale
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Health Care within a moral value, is to ,
{ GIVE LIFE TO HOPE WHERE THERE IS NONE }
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FASC Concepts in and for Pay It Forward
http://www.fascmovement.mysite.com on google. yahoo, and Aol.com
please take the time and visit all my new friends on the net and if you wish to post with FASC Concepts you will be most welcomed. So join us and share your ideas as one in one voice.

Henry Massingale
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Thank You I wish to give a great big thank you to all my new friends on the Internet for posting FASC Concepts in and for Pay It Forward. This building block for a honest Health Care Reform has been a great experience and for any one who did not take part, you have truly missed out on what makes Americans Great. This diversity created by Government Officials has failed and now the eyes of 173 million American People watch as now, for the first time Government Officials sit down together as it should be. The out come is yet… Read more »

randy faria
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randy faria

Hey, hows that massachusetts election doing for proving your point that we will be for this the more we know it?

Henry massingale
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Praying For Dollars, Paying Christians Health Care Dollars. ahhh, well for give me but first before I address this, We wish to say thank you to President Obama and the Obama Administration for being the first Government Officials that have created the first Anomaly, in all of U.S. History. Has this Health Care issues reached desperate measures by Government Officials offering money to Christians to pray for the sick, welllll. I see what this is, but I must share the truth, it is a 21st. Century Of Caging. The same {two step shuffle} used to gain political support in a… Read more »

Henry Massingale
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It is much deeper then this, DNA testing for Health Care Companies to pick and chose, this is the story we found on,d.n.a. testing to be able to get health care for the futher……………. The New York Times 1.Insurance Fears Lead Many to Shun DNA Tests – New York Times Feb 24, 2008 … She worried that she might not be able to get health insurance, … And even doctors who recommend DNA testing to their patients warn them … http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/health/24dna.html – Similar Insurance Fears Lead Many to Shun DNA Tests Victoria Grove wanted to find out if she was… Read more »

TnFlash
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TnFlash

I have a question on the new health care bill. It makes it illegal for me to not have health care insurance. If I can’t afford the premiums, will I be charged with a misdemeanor or a felony? And exactly how many Americans are they willing to turn into criminals?

Nate
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Nate

Courts have help PPOs in America liable for “sterring” people to a particular provider. If I push, even slightly, someone to go to Costa Rica for a surgery and something goes wrong I will be named in the suit. Additionally if I actually strongly want someone to go to Costa Rica then I need to make it an attractive proposition for them to do so. One way to accomplish this is to offer them the same protections they are afforded here. If I eliminate the argument/concern “what happens if they botch the curgery” then I have increased the chances of… Read more »

Vikram C
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Vikram C

Nate- On second looks I realize what you are implying that malpractice protection is raised to that of this country. Sorry but the American laws are not portable. Just because you are an American is not going to induce a Thai court to apply American laws for case involving American patient. So could you try that once again, how if something goes wrong overseas would be paid for by United, BCBS etc? In other words the punitive/economic damages for negligent procedures would be paid by United, BCBS etc? Since we pay the premiums for our health insurers it implies we… Read more »

Vikram C
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Vikram C

Nate, Obviously to you uninsured mean nothing more than guinea pigs or some neanderthals. Why wouldn’t malpractice protection be important to that group? Does your love for your own life reduce just because you are uninsured? It’s not that malpractice is not important for them. It’s just that when you are in Mogadishuland you don’t scream for patient rights or dignity. You just choose from what you have. Over to insured group. Please show me one link where insurers such as United/BCBS global companion are offering malpractice protection? Under what law are they obliged to pay for provider’s mistakes? If… Read more »

Nate
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Nate

My point is malpractice is not lowered to the level of that in other countries but is in fact raised to that of this country. When the insurers and payors offer medical tourist the same protections they have at home is when Medical Tourism will become more attractive. There are two markets for Medical Tourism that have widely divergent profiles. American’s that self pay becuase they are uninsured, malpratice protection is not nearly important to these people, then there are those that are insured that sending them to costa rica saves the systems money. The later is 83% of the… Read more »