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Month: May 2005

TECHNOLGY: Too much of a good thing?

Walking the floor at the TEPR show this week brought home the wonders
of electronic medical records. The show had a multitude of
presentations on EMR use, but more than 35 years after the first EMRs
were developed we’re still early in the adoption cycle. Most
presentations were about fairly small-scale case studies. But despite
the exit of hundreds of firms from the EMR and practice management
market, and the slow emergence of several dominant players, there are
still plenty of new entrepreneurial companies with booths — and not
all small ones — out on the exhibit floor. Many of these companies
have new EMR technology that, while it may be more advanced, doesn’t
look that dissimilar to those on show a few years back.  What they lack
is a customer base. But as the legacy players in practice management
and small hospital IT systems have shown, in health care getting into
the market is relatively cheap and you don’t need that big a customer
base to anchor a business.

One of the major problems in physician
adoption of technology is the lack of familiarity with a few trusted
brands, and the insistence on doing everything differently than the
practice or hospital down the street. The sheer number of vendors
willing to support that demand for "doing it different", including
those based on software from physicians who claimed that "what was on
the market didn’t meet their needs", means that we’re a long way from
getting to the status of other industries where everyone is comfortable
with using a few widely known applications.  This might be a case where
we have just too much good old American ingenuity.

Having said that, I saw some interesting products and there are some interesting new developments that I’ll comment on later….

POLICS: Galloway vs. The US Senate

Off-topic for health care but great fun nonetheless. A snooty Minnesotan Republican Senator (who would never have been elected unless Paul Wellstone hadn’t very conveniently died in a plane crash just before the election in 2002) decided to take on a Glaswegian streetfighter who’d already beaten The Daily Telegraph, and the Christian Science Monitor.  Galloway was more than happy to hop on a plane to get his 15 minutes of fame in the US, and to call the Republicans on the disaster they have walked into and exacerbated in Iraq.  And there was little doubt who was going to win, and who did.

INTERNATIONAL/QUALITY: The Brits are in court over “how much is enough?”

Well I was up late late last night working on some client stuff and am about to head back to that meat grinder, but for now consider this….

You may (unfortunately) remember the Terri Schiavo incident.  The Brits are playing this rather differently.  Here we’re keeping people alive who want to die (or at least we’re keeping some people who want to die alive). In the UK the issue of the NHS continuing to treat people who are going to die but who want all the stops pulled out anyway is ending up in court. Traditionally this process played out in the UK in a "stiff upper lip" way, mostly controlled by the medical profession.  Now the government is being explicit that it feels some medical care is a waste of resources. Pretty interesting stuff, because of course they are right, and the same thing is going in here but no one has the cojones to point it out.  But with the baby boomers about to hit Medicare and the Federal budget in the pocketbook, and way too much excessive care of the nearly dead going on in America’s ICUs,  the day when this discussion starts here will come.

THE INDUSTRY: Down to the wire for Scrushy

Well the jury is out at the Scrushy Trial. Don’t really want to spend a whole lot of thought about it, but I’m a little intrigued to see if the preaching at the black Churches and the sponsoring of the Christian boy bands can keep poor Richard out of the slammer. I doubt it, but then again I pride myself on being rational! I read somewhere that it’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a Medicare fraudster to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.  But what would I know….

TECHNOLOGY: ePrescribing is about renewals

Edmund (Bill) Billings, another ex-Oceania MD & veteran now runs a consulting company called Phyxe helping docs get up and running with ePrescribing. 

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The first key point is that vendors are not focusing on renewals…when he was judging the contest for TEPR only 3 of the 12 vendors had "renewals" as a word search that came up. Yet renewals are the biggest pain in the system–actually worse than refills.  New scripts are not such a big deal

He had an example of one solo pediatric doc who had 400 kids with ADD who needed a renewal/refill each month. Using DrFirst it went from 10 mins per to less than a minute to do a renewal, and cut the staff time, phone/fax coming from the pharmacy, etc. Another example was a 2 internist practice who used Oncall. They cut phone calls down (Major problem had been legibility).  He cut each activity’s time down dramatically (such as renewal authorization, writing new Rx, Renewal request, calls from pharmacy) and made his practice much more productive. This practice is very satisfied with Rx at their end but less satisfied with the pharmacy processing end of it, suggesting that the pharmacy is up to scratch. And this practice wants to build out from this to get to better messaging, getting Rx authorization up and running, etc.

Overall renewals are a big burden and one that the physician underestimates the impact on on their staff. Sometimes, the doc now does more of the renewals after ePrescribing.

Both of these are ASP based.  Ed says the prices is around  $50 a month but that Docs might pay more when they figure out how much overtime for their staff this might cut down on.

This may be the first time that I’ve seen a real business case for a doc to pay for an ePrescribing app.

TECHNOLGY: TEPR and ePrescribing

I’m in the ePrescribing track with a couple of smart people telling us the ePrescribing will happen. Danny Sands of Zixcorp (and of Harvard) thinks that in the last year it’s really picking up in Mass with 3,000 doctors on board. So he’s an optimist. He especially believes that ePrescribing will be a decent intermediate step for those practices who realistically are not getting to an EMR any time soon.

Tony Scheuth, who I knew when he was hanging out at an original CHIN company called IMS in Colorado, is now a consultant who spends 80% of his time in ePrescribing. He thinks that pay for performance is maybe enough to push it over the top. But at the moment the incentives aren’t big enough (although he’s going to say that the dollars may be big enough in California & Mass). And then he went through the list of the P4P groups and how their incentives are often linked to infrastructure (or more accurately system use).

Of course the whole issue is that there is no financial advantage to the docs unless they’re at risk for the drugs, which 98% of docs are not.

So two optimists.  Perhaps they should both know better!  Or just maybe they might be right?

TECHNOLOGY: Rick Peters on why he’s frustrated

Rick Peters, who founded Oceania and has been around the health care EMR scene for a while, keynotes at TEPR.  He points out a few facts obvious to TCHB readers, costs are up–employers can’t afford health benefits  and so are dropping coverage and putting people into Medical and uninsurance slices on that nice chart from the California Health Care Foundation. And in the new high deductible world, costs are way too much for sick people. He didn’t mention Walmart by name but he and Paul Krugman are on the same page here….

He had a few other fastballs…

  • Med malpractice is a red herring and premiums are are up because the insurance companies really screwed up that
  • EBM: we’re not doing it but DSM may not save much money.  Finally under pay for performance, won’t the sicker patients be kicked out of the practice by the doctor?  So EBM may not be a panacea.  Because 80% of what doctors do is unnecessary, and 80% of these workups were done before.
  • And I think he says (because his slides are horrible) that if we cut back to generic only drugs we’d save a fortune….physicians are not doing the cost effective thing.  And cant blame it all on pharma, 20% of patients who see the ad ask for it, but 70% of the time the doc will write the script/  Plus 60% of scripts are for off-label use (and therefore not EBM).

The result of all this is that we’re doing P4P and building the measurement systems for it. The  focus is getting measurements of what’s going on (and going wrong) not on getting the data that we need, and no ones forcing that on the system (no mandates).  Meanwhile admin overhead costs  physicians 40-60% of their revenue.  We know that EHR along can reduce office visits 9%, PCP visits 11%, and the % of members with 3 or more visits goes down 11% (all KP data).

So why ain’t happening? Generally computer technology is going to Internet based architecture and XML.  Why does health care think its different. Still opposing the adoption of these advanced techniques.  OK, so IT spending is higher elsewhere. But Wall Street spends limited amounts of its money on infrastructure–which it rents–and most of its money is spent on other advanced techniques like data mining.

We are preoccupied with duplicating the patient chart.  Peters thinks that a PDF alone would be good enough to move that data around.  We just need to get the data in useful form. We need that data in whatever form from whatever.  (By the way, for those of you with long memories this sounds like Chris Mayaud’s "physicians as short order cook" line that he was using in in 1997!)

Other artificial opposition — HIS v Amb record vendors; big institutions are not good innovators, but all the money goes to the big elephants. (He was pretty brutal about the IBM UPMC deal). Peters believes that innovation is coming in the smaller vendors integrating PMS/EHR.  But existing vendors cant switch to ASP as they’ll take a revenue hit.  So technology is blocked by business issues.

He thinks that ePrescribing is taking off. Although 99% of mail order/retail pharmacy is already automated. He thinks that SureScripts is driving this very quickly.  SureScripts is an utility infrastructure that is rented not owned.

Rolling this altogether (employer costs, Medicare costs, infrastructure we can plug into is there, tech development tools are better, OPM [Opium or other people’s money] is available if we want it) Peters thinks that we should go straight to revolution and chuck out the evolutionary phase that we’re in.

TECHNOLOGY: On the (Wasatch) front lines at TEPR

Today THCB comes to you from the Salt Palace, just across town from the Mormon Temple.  Yup, TEPR is in Salt Like City, Utah, and I chose this as a nice occasion to get to one of my favorite places (Park City) and do a little cave exploring, mountain walking and paragliding (and hanging out with my friend Regina). Oh, and TEPR is going on here too.

As I sit here the first major technical snafu of the conference is ongoing as David Sundwall, the head of Utah’s department of health is telling us that not only Utah’s CHIN/RHIO, called the Utah Health Information Network (UHIN), whatever is better than anyone elses, but also quite impressively has 100% of hospitals and 90% of doctors on the system.  (The other slides of what he wanted to show about the interloper Johny come latelies in Indy and Massachusetts are not working, hence the PowerPoint data loss in the picture below).

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And then he makes the logical leap, which is that the important information is in the physicians office and that needs to be made electronic. Otherwise the important data has to be re-keyed

56% of physicians here allegedly have EMRs. I’m not sure I believe that, but CPOE is up at 34% of hospitals, lab is 65%, radiology in that range (Yup, Intermountain has a huge market share here– can’t you tell? Here’s more from Brent James about Intermountain’s system).

So we’ve got the RHIO here in Utah, we’ve got a more advanced medical system in terms of IT use, and it’s all happening here (if not in the rest of America)….. and of course the skiing is the best in the world….but make sure that you the miss the trees in the back of Jupiter Bowl at Park City.

POLICY: The (Very) Odd Couple

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This week Hillary Clinton met with Newt Gingrich and together they declared
unity and agreement on America’s health care future —  at least as far as the
role of information technology goes in it. 

The author of "The Great Right Wing Conspiracy" cosying up with the woman who dreamed up "HillaryCare?" 

That surprising sight led to an immediate media
freakout. What could it all mean?  Could some sort of earth-shattering political announcement be about to follow? 

The New York Times sheds some light on things:

"As it turns out, Mr. Gingrich and Mrs. Clinton have a lot more in
common now that they have left behind the politics of the 1990’s, when
she was a symbol of the liberal excesses of the Clinton White House and
he was a fiery spokesman for a resurgent conservative movement in
Washington."

Both Clinton and Gingrich seem to agree that government should help fund the technological transformation of the healthcare industry.  Historically, the implications of this kind of bipartisanship are big indeed.  Well, sort of.  Providers and payers can expect more legislation impacting information
technology, but realistically probably not much more
money from the feds.   

Health
care veterans may recall the last time significant legislation affecting health
care IT was passed: in 1996, when the Senate voted 100-0 in favor of the
Kennedy-Kassenbaum legislation. That law is better known today as HIPAA. Ten
years later payers and providers are still struggling with the implications.  So cast
a jaundiced eye when you hear that Washington is preparing to intervene.